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Indonesia to execute six drug offenders
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Excluding Japan and the US, how many countries with the death penalty are minimally developed?
 And Japan only uses it once or twice a year, sometimes none.
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 Quote:Because it's another country the laws are somehow okay? Does it matter if the law is "okay?" Do they ask for your approval?  (January 17, 2015 at 10:06 pm)Blackout Wrote: Excluding Japan and the US, how many countries with the death penalty are minimally developed? I guess it depends on what you mean by minimally developed. I wouldn't really call China minimally developed. Singapore is another first world country that comes to mind. ![[Image: dcep7c.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i46.tinypic.com%2Fdcep7c.jpg)
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(January 17, 2015 at 10:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Because it's another country the laws are somehow okay? They should ask my approval! Unjust laws are unjust regardless of what country their originate from or even the means that the laws come about, democratic or by the decree of a dictator. Capital punishment for an act that harms no one but the person doing it is unjust. Mind you I'm not replying to you. It's more in reply to people giving the predictable reply 'well you go to their country you have to obey their laws!" I would do that out of self interest but that in no way means that the people being executed somehow deserve their fate, as some people seem to be implying. Would they deserve it if they were in the US or Europe? Of course not. Thus the invisible line we call a border isn't that important to me when it comes to what is just or not.
But if do go to their country you do have to obey their laws. This is a practical v. philosophical matter. And law is almost always practical.
(January 17, 2015 at 10:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But if do go to their country you do have to obey their laws. This is a practical v. philosophical matter. And law is almost always practical. Right, of course I have option C. Don't go to any country where fucking Muslims are in charge of making the laws.
RE: Indonesia to execute six drug offenders
January 17, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2015 at 11:53 pm by Dystopia.)
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(January 17, 2015 at 11:31 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(January 17, 2015 at 10:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But if do go to their country you do have to obey their laws. This is a practical v. philosophical matter. And law is almost always practical. Agreed....although I suspect we here in the good ole US of A execute more people than Indonesia. In fact, Amnesty International issued a report showing that we were consistently in the top 5...with such luminaries as China, N. Korea, Iran and Yemen. Indonesia did not make the list.  RE: Indonesia to execute six drug offenders
January 18, 2015 at 12:16 am
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2015 at 12:23 am by Regina.)
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