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I need major help with my Christian Family
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 RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
February 10, 2015 at 6:43 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 6:44 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(February 10, 2015 at 6:24 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: GC please clarify are you this dishonest or just being stupid? Those are not mutually exclusive options...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
 (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm positive the God of the Bible exists, no doubts. See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing. Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Does what a parent do for their child seem they would steer one in the wrong direction? Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children. I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell, all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's.Your post makes me feel ashamed to belong to the same species as you. I'm baffled that you can write these words and think it's OK to do so. This 14 yo has already shown more compassion and critical thinking than you.  RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
February 10, 2015 at 6:58 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 7:09 am by Alex K.)
Godschild Wrote:, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand[..]all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. Well, I've seen a few things myself (though I may be younger), believe me, and I'm saying you're a liar.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Godschild Wrote:, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand[..]all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. Actually, though I'm hesitant to request more bile from you, can you give some examples of something you've seen that none of us mortals can understand?  RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
February 10, 2015 at 8:27 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 8:28 am by Whateverist.)
Warning. I'm just fucking with you.
Perhaps you could do a Steve Martin like overboard enthusiasm for god and all things xtian. Babble in tongues. Yell out "thank you Jesus" in church. Spend hours chanting prayers and pouring over the bible at home. Get in touch with your inner lunatic. Maybe they'll try to get you to back off, do a little less church?  RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
February 10, 2015 at 10:28 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 10:53 am by Mister Agenda.)
(February 8, 2015 at 8:32 am)coolfunkDJ Wrote: Tell them the number one cause of atheism in teenagers is too much religion in their lives. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm positive the God of the Bible exists, no doubts. See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing. He just asked for some advice, you're being overdramatic to the point of dishonesty, an all-too-common thing with you. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Nope. That doesn't make us automatically wrong. And by that logic, he shouldn't listen to you, either. Thinking things through isn't your strong suit. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Does what a parent do for their child seem they would steer one in the wrong direction? You think parents NEVER steer kids in the wrong direction? If this kid was complaining about atheist parents never taking him to church, would you be singing the same tune? Parents are human beings. Human beings make mistakes. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. And you think that entitles them to treat him however they like without regard to his feelings? (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children. Which of these things have YOU done for him, that he should listen to YOU? Would you outlaw teachers and guidance counselors as unqualified to give advice to people's children unless they personally wiped their little behinds? Sometimes it helps to get the opinion of someone who is LESS personally involved than your mother. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell, all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. He totally should believe you, since you made a claim on the internet. I could care less if this kid is an atheist or a believer. Frankly, the tactics his parents are folllowing are more likely to cement him as an atheist, so if my goal was to make sure he's on team atheist, I'd advise him to suck it up. The worse his experience with religion is, the better. But what I actually care about is him having a good relationship with his parents, being able to be himself, and having a good life. That's something you can't understand, because you're a Christ-bot programmed to go after souls, and empathy just gets in your way. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. You earn the treatment you get here. You think all it takes to behave appropriately is to not use bad words while you spew the vilest insults to be found on this forum, all the worse because you mean them sincerely. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Yes, he should definitely see how some parents are so ruled by their religion that they would throw their own children under the bus for not conforming to their religious beliefs. If you can't have a good relationship with your child unless they agree with you, you do not actually love your child. (February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's. No one chooses atheism. People believe what they find convincing, period. It's not something an honest person can turn on and off like a light switch. What they chose was to be honest about their lack of belief and it was their family who couldn't love them for who they actually are. Yeah, after spending a long post trying to manipulate him, sign off with the 'it's your decision' line. Maybe you should follow your own advice and only pontificate to people whose asses you've wiped.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
 RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
February 10, 2015 at 11:11 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 11:16 am by Nope.)
(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm positive the God of the Bible exists, no doubts. See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing. Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Asking someone for advice or venting to them is not the same thing as seeing them as a parental figure. I see no evidence that he is looking at us as parents anyway. Teenagers and young adults are allowed to disagree with their parents. Quote:Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. No, his parents don't have the right to decide whether he will believe in god or not. Would you say the same thing about atheist parents if their child decided to join your faith? Would you tell that child that the fact that his parents have done their job means that he can't ever question their views? Quote:Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children. Do guilt trips normally work for you? My eldest son is a Christian. Maybe I should knock on his door and say, Listen young man, I did all these wonderful things for you so stop being a theist. Except I wouldn't do that because the choice is his not mine and I didn't do the things that mothers do so that his mind would always be a slave to mine. Quote:I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell, all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. I do not hate a nonexistent entity anymore than I hate Voldemort. Quote:If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. Sure, read my responses. I am normally polite but I assume that any Christian that voluntarily enters an atheist forum is here either because they love more heated debate or they want to convert the heathens. Quote:You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's. Wow.
Religion really can do major damage...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
 (February 10, 2015 at 11:14 am)Norman Humann Wrote:(February 10, 2015 at 11:13 am)Alex K Wrote: Religion really can do major damage... I was thinking of our friend GC here, but I don't want to leave you out by any means 
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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