The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This

[SteelCurtain]

Ah, the swiftly moving target that is Huggy's argumentative style.

You'll find yourself making an argument about how the fucking moon didn't randomly move 190,000 miles closer to the Earth in a thread about Jesus' marriage.

[Ravenshire]

Ah, the swiftly moving target that is Huggy's argumentative style.

You'll find yourself making an argument about how the fucking moon didn't randomly move 190,000 miles closer to the Earth in a thread about Jesus' marriage.

Mmmmmmmm-hmmm.

Goal posts shifted at the drop of a "puh-RAISE JEE-bus!"

[Huggy Bear]

lmao. You are such a cherrypicking little liar. There's a big fucking difference between "being Christian" and practicing Christianity.

Really? If you understand that, why do you guys act confused at the concept of "real Christians" vs "fake Christians"?

I'll respond to your post in full later, no time to do it tonight.

[Surgenator]

why do you guys act confused at the concept of "real Christians" vs "fake Christians"?

Look up "no true scotsman fallacy". That should clear things up.

[robvalue]

Holy fucking shit Huggy! Did I say anyone did ask that question? Why are you telling me what my point was? I already explained what the point was as well.

Option 4. Time is an illusion and cause and effect is meaningless.
Option 5. This universe was created by the breaking off of a tiny bit of another universe.
Option 6. Our universe was created as a side-effect of a chemical reaction in another universe.
Option 7. An unintelligent being created the universe, such as the Rock God, Smikkul who can do amazing things but has no intelligence or awareness.

Also, say there is some sort of creator. What difference does it make? Why should I care?

Didn't understand the question?
I clearly said pick the scenario that's least silly

As far as my proposal being "silliness", I going to list three scenarios, Pick the one that is least silly according to what you know to be possible/impossible.

1. The universe created itself.
2. The universe was created by an intelligent being.
3. The universe has always existed.


If you have a fourth scenario, then by all means, let me hear it.

Also, if you think I've asked any loaded question, be specific and quote what I said.

I'm going to assume that by submitting those three scenarios, you consider them just as likely.

Are you really. I'm done with you.

I see you ducked my question about what difference it makes if there is a creator as well. But too late now.

[Brakeman]

Ah, the swiftly moving target that is Huggy's argumentative style.

You'll find yourself making an argument about how the fucking moon didn't randomly move 190,000 miles closer to the Earth in a thread about Jesus' marriage.

He avoids even acknowledging my posts since he's afraid of me. He doesn't want to address the ridiculousness of his own claims, he just focuses on his uneducated perceptions of cracks in the scientific views.

How do you see if someone has you on ignore?

[robvalue]

God seems to have me on ignore :p

I don't know how you do that, sorry. Maybe try sending him a PM? I assume they'd get blocked too.

[Huggy Bear]

Ah, the swiftly moving target that is Huggy's argumentative style.

You'll find yourself making an argument about how the fucking moon didn't randomly move 190,000 miles closer to the Earth in a thread about Jesus' marriage.

You can't be serious...
Esquilax is the one that brought up the flood.
If I don't respond I'm dodging, if I do respond, I'm derailing the thread. You guys are a joke.
Now brakeman is whining about me not responding to his post on evolution, I guess that will be my fault too, right?

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Ah, the swiftly moving target that is Huggy's argumentative style.

You'll find yourself making an argument about how the fucking moon didn't randomly move 190,000 miles closer to the Earth in a thread about Jesus' marriage.

He avoids even acknowledging my posts since he's afraid of me. He doesn't want to address the ridiculousness of his own claims, he just focuses on his uneducated perceptions of cracks in the scientific views.

How do you see if someone has you on ignore?

Don't flatter yourself.
As if i have time to respond to everyone, not to mention I've already made my position clear about evolution in another thread.
But I'll summarize it just for you.

So huggy, are you really going to ignore the complete lack of evidence of how your god "poofed" new species periodically within the evolutionary cycle in order to attack accepted science's natural explanations?

Do you have me on ignore or are you really that much of a dishonest deceiver?

Where did your god get his magic wand and how does it work?

I believe in evolution in the sense that a species evolves from itself and cannot become an entirely new species. Show me where a species evolving into a completely new species has ever been observed.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/species

species
noun spe·cies \ˈspē-(ˌ)shēz, -(ˌ)sēz\

biology : a group of animals or plants that are similar and can produce young animals or plants : a group of related animals or plants that is smaller than a genus

: a particular group of things or people that belong together or have some shared quality

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But yet 78% of Danes are members of the church.
http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/RINV...enmark.htm

Now show me in the US constitution where any church or religion is favored...

lmao. You are such a cherrypicking little liar. There's a big fucking difference between "being Christian" and practicing Christianity. The following is a little exerpt from the article that YOU supplied as your evidence for Denmark being a Christian nation:

Not only have these secular values become more clearly articulated than before, they are nowadays also launched, at times aggressively, as values that express the very essence of contemporary Danishness.

In Denmark, as in other European countries, the success of what might perhaps be called “traditional secularism,” advocating the independence of politics, education, science, and social affairs from religious dogmas and institutions, has served as a vehicle for emancipation and democracy.

All that your article made clear was that Denmark is Lutheran in name alone and that Danes are thriving because of secularism rather than the dogma of your horse shit religion. That friend of mine that I mentioned said that a small amount of Danes go to church 4 or 5 times a year as a matter of tradition and simple habit. Nothing more. They're "christian" the way most white Americans are "Irish" or "Dutch" ... in name only. Many churches are shut down or turned into community centers or taverns.

In Denmark only 5% of Lutherans attend church.

Consider yourself served.

Oh Noes, I's been served...

You misunderstand, first of all were talking about the Danish government being secular.
Secondly, 78% of Danes are members of the church not by choice, but because the Danish GOVERNMENT automatically makes them members at birth, how much they attend has nothing to do with it. They are being forced to join a church having no say in the matter. What if the US government made everyone member of a Church at birth? would you consider that secularism?

[Mr Greene]

[Norman Humann]

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