More atheist men than women?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Actually,seahorse males can get pregnant and deliver offspring.

In that case I would assume female seahorses can be priests.

Does it say in your book of rules that this exception can be made?

[Longhorn]

CL. Why can't women hold high positions in the church hierarchy?

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If the Church says that women never have the authority to teach, then why do Catholic schools have mostly women teachers? If the Church says that women are inferior to men, then why does Church Doctrine state they are equal? The Church does not say these things, Neim.

But they don't have women priests who are more important and have more power and authority than teachers. Males can also be teachers, but females can't be priests. The inequality is obvious.

Yes, men are vital for procreation, but it's the woman who carries life and brings it into the world. Men can't do that.
In the same sense it can also be said that women are vital for priests to be born in the first place. It isn't men that are carrying them inside their bodies for 9 months and giving birth to them. 

Both women and men are required for anybody to be born.

Two people are needed for procreation. One for preaching. See the difference?

That's the whole point. We are equal and complimentary, and we cannot survive as a species without the other.

No, that's not the point. The point is that the CC doesn't allow women in their higher hierarchy. Why do you think that is?

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[Jenny A]

I don't know why there are fewer women atheists but I can make some observations about other places I've been where women were in the extreme minority. 

After the 101 survey course, in philosophy courses, I tended to be one of only about two women per class of twenty to thirty.  There were far more women even in a military history seminar. Back then law school was about 40% female but in the corporate tax law, and small corporations problems seminars I took I was the only woman in the class.   For whatever reason the classes that featured primarily abstract reasoning tended to have fewer of us females. 

At that time there weren't many women going into the sciences or engineering either. Much less than the numbers going into the law.

And then there's the social aspect.  Classes in estate planning, and family law often had more women then men even though estate planning is largely tax and in many ways the same sort of tax as corporate tax.   Torts, criminal law, and constitutional law seemed evenly divided been the sexes.

So, I surmised that it was a combination of desire for greater social involvement and aversion to abstract thinking.

But things change.  Right now I gather there are more women going into law than men in the U.S.   And many, many women are going into the sciences.  My girls are in or have just graduated from high school and unlike in my day the AP stats, calculus, chem, and physics courses are about evenly divided between the girls and the boys.   But computer programming and CAD remain almost entirely boys' turf, though I have a daughter taking those courses.

My guess is that as more women enter the sciences, philosophy, computer programing, and engineering the numbers will even out some too. 

I'm watching two very bright girls who are friends of my kids moving inexorably from fundamentalist christian, to liberal christian, to doubting christian.   The impetus is science courses and they are very science minded girls.   College, even the christian schools they will attend, will probably make atheists of them.

[Pyrrho]

According to this WIN-Gallup poll, there are a higher percentage of women who are atheists than men (See table 8 on page 20):

http://www.wingia.com/web/files/news/14/file/14.pdf

So maybe there is no need to try to "explain" why women would be more religious at all.

As for atheist women, I found a nice one and married her.  She is a very strong atheist.  But she would not waste her time on a site like this one, so that is why she isn't here.  Of course, she would not be doing any of you lonely guys any good anyway, because she and I are very happy together.

If you are serious about meeting an atheist woman, you might want to try an atheist dating site, or go to local meetings of atheist groups.

And, of course, you still have to convince her that it isn't a waste of time to be with you, so this is not a panacea for lonely guys.  If you treat women like shit, smart women don't want you.

[Catholic_Lady]

In that case I would assume female seahorses can be priests.

Does it say in your book of rules that this exception can be made?

Oh yeah.

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CL. Why can't women hold high positions in the church hierarchy?

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But they don't have women priests who are more important and have more power and authority than teachers. Males can also be teachers, but females can't be priests. The inequality is obvious.


Both women and men are required for anybody to be born.

Two people are needed for procreation. One for preaching. See the difference?


No, that's not the point. The point is that the CC doesn't allow women in their higher hierarchy. Why do you think that is?

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I already told you. You may not like/agree with the answer, but that is the answer and it has nothing to do with men being "superior" to women.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Does it say in your book of rules that this exception can be made?

Oh yeah.

Show me

[Catholic_Lady]

As for atheist women, I found a nice one and married her.  She is a very strong atheist.  But she would not waste her time on a site like this one, so that is why she isn't here.  Of course, she would not be doing any of you lonely guys any good anyway, because she and I are very happy together.

Good for you, and congratulations on a happy marriage!

[Jenny A]

According to this WIN-Gallup poll, there are a higher percentage of women who are atheists than men (See table 8 on page 20):

http://www.wingia.com/web/files/news/14/file/14.pdf

So maybe there is no need to try to "explain" why women would be more religious at all.

As for atheist women, I found a nice one and married her.  She is a very strong atheist.  But she would not waste her time on a site like this one, so that is why she isn't here.  Of course, she would not be doing any of you lonely guys any good anyway, because she and I are very happy together.

If you are serious about meeting an atheist woman, you might want to try an atheist dating site, or go to local meetings of atheist groups.

And, of course, you still have to convince her that it isn't a waste of time to be with you, so this is not a panacea for lonely guys.  If you treat women like shit, smart women don't want you.

I'd love to see table eight broken out by country.

[Excited Penguin]

I was just arguing a while back with a former atheist girl, on another forum. It got me depressed, honestly. How can anyone fall back into that?

Actually the first atheist I ever met(that I know of, anyway) was a girl. She was my age(quite young we were) and played a part in my own deconversion.

But yeah, girls are pretty scarce in this thing of ours. Have no idea why, nothing beyond the usual theories anyway.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

True, but the rights and freedoms you enjoy as a woman today in the 21st century world did not from Catholicism or the RCC. It wasn't the RCC that gave women the right to vote, it wasn't the RCC that gave women the contraceptive pill or the right to determine her own sexual independence.

My point was, they can still freely leave the Church.

That's what you think is it?

Many with different experiences to you would disagree.