Islam is the real deal

[ReptilianPeon]

[huss88ein]

[Aractus]

Oh you got me there
Just kidding
Look at this picture



doesn't look like earth to you it sure does to me

And before you post any more criticism remember that quran says dahaha it is a verb not a noun as in made look like an ostrich egg

Isn't it better for you to see with your own eyes than quoting other people just saying.

The point is that no matter what way you turn an egg it's always round and oval in the opposite direction to the earth. If you were to draw the circumference of that egg on a sheet of paper around its widest points it would be an oval (or an oval that is slightly skewed one way), yet if you do the same thing to the earth it's a circle, not an oval. You only get an oval by going pole-to-pole which is the narrowest point of circumference. They're exact opposites.

To explain in a more visual way - Eggs are spheres that have been stretched out, whereas the Earth is a sphere that has been squashed.

[Iroscato]

So, the world is a misshapen, boiled egg?

Explains why so many religions are poached...

Get out.

[ReptilianPeon]

Seeing as the OP seems to have wriggled out of my first attack, let's try questioning the historical accuracy of the Quran. I have two verses which on the face of it appear to contradict the history of Mecca.
Quran 2:127 and Quran 3:96 assert that Mecca is the old settlement (and place of worship) on Earth. How can it be reliably demonstrated that Mecca is as old as the Quran claims (as old as Abraham) and that people have gone there since the time of Abraham and up to the time of Muhammad?

2:127 "And remember Abraham and Isma'il raised the foundations of the House (With this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us: For Thou art the All-Hearing, the All-knowing."

3:96 "The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings:"

I cannot find any evidence that the city of Mecca is as old as the Quran claims. Heck, I cannot find any evidence for the Abraham of the Quran either. Why would anyone go to the middle of nowhere all the way up from Israel?

[pocaracas]

AHAHAHA, the real deal.... you wish...
Really, you wish.. it's all wishful thinking.
I'll just copy in here what I wrote to a christian this morning:

Still, for the relevance it supposedly has, Id' expect a good, caring, powerful god to show people that it's there.
People of every generation (throughout the ages) and every geographical location should be made equally aware of this god.
Unfortunately, reality paints a picture of a very localized (both in time and space) deity. A great hint that it is far from divine, and closer to man-made.

[Mister Agenda]

There are many scintific facts in quran that would proof to any one that quran is the word of god and god exists one .
one of them is the embryology of humans who drove many doctors to believe that quran is indeed the word of god.
Ready to answer any questions

I've got a textbook full of scientific facts. Is it also the word of God?

[huss88ein]

Seeing as the OP seems to have wriggled out of my first attack, let's try questioning the historical accuracy of the Quran. I have two verses which on the face of it appear to contradict the history of Mecca.
Quran 2:127 and Quran 3:96 assert that Mecca is the old settlement (and place of worship) on Earth. How can it be reliably demonstrated that Mecca is as old as the Quran claims (as old as Abraham) and that people have gone there since the time of Abraham and up to the time of Muhammad?

2:127 "And remember Abraham and Isma'il raised the foundations of the House (With this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us: For Thou art the All-Hearing, the All-knowing."

3:96 "The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings:"

I cannot find any evidence that the city of Mecca is as old as the Quran claims. Heck, I cannot find any evidence for the Abraham of the Quran either. Why would anyone go to the middle of nowhere all the way up from Israel?

First using the word wriggled is not fair at least admit that I have cleared some miss understood thinga that were going in your mind.

As for Abraham(pbuh) again miss understandings first he was from Iraq not Palestine and it can't be called Israel because Israel is Jacobs nickname his son so it is not logical to call a place by someone's name and that one has not existed yet see the controversy.

As for mecca being that old well why not that's not a well based argue just like saying china hasn't exited because I never been there .

As for historical facts in quran if you read it you will see that it is the only book holy or not that has mentioned the rulers of Egypt by two names according to history changes you can see the name king at Josephs time and Pharoah at moses time you can look it up if you want.

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Oh you got me there
Just kidding
Look at this picture



doesn't look like earth to you it sure does to me

And before you post any more criticism remember that quran says dahaha it is a verb not a noun as in made look like an ostrich egg

Isn't it better for you to see with your own eyes than quoting other people just saying.

The point is that no matter what way you turn an egg it's always round and oval in the opposite direction to the earth. If you were to draw the circumference of that egg on a sheet of paper around its widest points it would be an oval (or an oval that is slightly skewed one way), yet if you do the same thing to the earth it's a circle, not an oval. You only get an oval by going pole-to-pole which is the narrowest point of circumference. They're exact opposites.

To explain in a more visual way - Eggs are spheres that have been stretched out, whereas the Earth is a sphere that has been squashed.

My dear friend you're an intelligent man I have to admit but imagine if someone took your words that you used here such as drawing around the earth in a sheet and said look how stupid this guy is , putting the earth on a sheet ahhhh.

Then you will say I was speaking in a likenings and comparasions I never claimed that we can do that literally so as I already explaind god made earth look like an egg not an egg!!!

As for the two words stretched an crushed you can go from one to another I mean crushing something will make it longer and stretching something will put the same pressure on the middle section so thats just playing with words fom my understanding but that's not the point the point I already made above.

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There are many scintific facts in quran that would proof to any one that quran is the word of god and god exists one .
one of them is the embryology of humans who drove many doctors to believe that quran is indeed the word of god.
Ready to answer any questions

I've got a textbook full of scientific facts. Is it also the word of God?

Am I supposed to laugh here , you're missing the whole point read the discussion and you will see that I have insisted that quran is not a science book lol.

[TubbyTubby]

As for the two words stretched an crushed you can go from one to another I mean crushing something will make it longer and stretching something will put the same pressure on the middle section so thats just playing with words fom my understanding but that's not the point the point I already made above.

Not really, the two 3d shapes have very distinct differences. It's not a play on words.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spheroid

Oblate and prolate.

[huss88ein]

As for the two words stretched an crushed you can go from one to another I mean crushing something will make it longer and stretching something will put the same pressure on the middle section so thats just playing with words fom my understanding but that's not the point the point I already made above.

Not really, the two 3d shapes have very distinct differences. It's not a play on words.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spheroid

Oblate and prolate.

Most bird eggs have an oval shape, with one end rounded and the other more pointed. This shape results from the egg being forced through the oviduct. Muscles contract the oviduct behind the egg, pushing it forward. The egg's wall is still malleable. So it is all about pressure on the eggs surface that give it that shape.

So it is an outside pressure hence crushing pressure till it gets that shape.

Hope that was helpful.