Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'

[Daystar]

Stop bullshitting me and give me a photo of the evidence. Just one.

The one I have right now is this-

Okay. Finally. Why was that so difficult? Now, what do each of those images or skulls represent? What are they? Explain them if you can.

[Ace Otana]

Stop bullshitting me and give me a photo of the evidence. Just one.

The one I have right now is this-

Okay. Finally. Why was that so difficult? Now, what do each of those images or skulls represent? What are they? Explain them if you can.

Each of these skulls represent ape like men and women in a period in which they lived. There age, shape and location gives us the evidence of evolution. You can see that the skull changes shape to accommodate the growth of the human brain. Jaw muscles are reduced and brain size is increased through millions of years. We still have 2 pointy teeth from the top and bottom parts of our jaw where we used to rip apart flash with. In time, our brains grew and we started using tools instead of our teeth to rip up flesh and so the teeth that was used for flesh tearing started decreasing in size, eventually it should dis-appear altogether. Tails no longer needed as we started walking on 2 feet.

All these changes take place in millions of years. What is not needed/used will be gone in many generations time. Humans once had powerful muscle jaws but not anymore because we don't need them. We don't use them since we use tools now.

Look at the size of the teeth and the shape/size of the head.

[Ace Otana]

I should note that I'm not an expert on evolution. I only know bits of it.

Anyway, please view this and look at the teeth and the head shape and size.

[Ace Otana]

Here are some more evidence of evolution. The ones on the top are the oldest and the ones on the bottom are recent.

[Ace Otana]

Funny how we have a tail like countless other animals. We look no differant than the others.

[Ace Otana]

I'd like to note that I am not an expert of evolution. So any experts here who wish to point out errors, please do. I'm still learning.

[Daystar]

Each of these skulls represent ape like men and women in a period in which they lived. There age, shape and location gives us the evidence of evolution.

Two questions. Which skulls are apes and which ones are men, and how do their shape, location and age give us evidence of evolution?

You can see that the skull changes shape to accommodate the growth of the human brain. Jaw muscles are reduced and brain size is increased through millions of years.

How do we know that the changes of the skull shape is to accommodate the growth of a human brain and not just the shape of a human scull? Point out to me where the jaw muscles are reduced. How accurate is the millions of years estimation. What is it based upon?

We still have 2 pointy teeth from the top and bottom parts of our jaw where we used to rip apart flash with. In time, our brains grew and we started using tools instead of our teeth to rip up flesh and so the teeth that was used for flesh tearing started decreasing in size, eventually it should dis-appear altogether. Tails no longer needed as we started walking on 2 feet.

Apes, chimps, etc. use tools. How do teeth know how they are used and how they should evolve?

All these changes take place in millions of years. What is not needed/used will be gone in many generations time. Humans once had powerful muscle jaws but not anymore because we don't need them. We don't use them since we use tools now.

Isn't that speculation? How does this sort of future speculation fit within evolution and how can it not be any more speculation than anything else you estimate as far as evolution?

Look at the size of the teeth and the shape/size of the head.

I don't see anything remarkable about the various sizes of skulls of what appear to be non human primate skulls? Where am I wrong, other than the obvious fact that I don't see what isn't there?

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I should note that I'm not an expert on evolution. I only know bits of it.

Anyway, please view this and look at the teeth and the head shape and size.

You show Human, Chimpanzee, Orangutan and Macaque skulls with various sizes and that is supposed to demonstrate evolution? If you really, really believe - it will be true? Maybe that is my problem.

[Ace Otana]

I already explained that I'm not an expert. But I really don't think you know anything of evolution.

Read up books that was writen by those who do fully understand evolution. I'm no expert, but read up on the ones who wrote these books. Once you've done that, we can continue this debate.

Charles Darwin (1859). The Origin of Species.
Charles Darwin (1871). The Descent of Man.
Richard Dawkins (1976). The Selfish Gene.
Richard Dawkins (1982). The Extended Phenotype.
Richard Dawkins (1986). The Blind Watchmaker.
Richard Dawkins (1995). River out of Eden.
Richard Dawkins (1996). Climbing Mount Improbable.
Richard Dawkins (2004). The Ancestor's Tale.
Daniel Dennett (1995). Darwin's Dangerous Idea.
Daniel Dennett (2003). Freedom Evolves.
Jared Diamond (1992). The Third Chimpanzee
Michael Dowd (2008). Thank God for Evolution: How the Marriage of Science and Religion Will Transform Your Life and Our World.

[Daystar]

Here are some more evidence of evolution. The ones on the top are the oldest and the ones on the bottom are recent.

Notice here that what we actually have is older animal skulls and then more recent human skulls. That isn't evidence of evolution, that is evidence of desperation.

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Funny how we have a tail like countless other animals. We look no differant than the others.

We look no different than the others? Then why do we evolve into something other than the others?

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I already explained that I'm not an expert. But I really don't think you know anything of evolution.

Read up books that was writen by those who do fully understand evolution. I'm no expert, but read up on the ones who wrote these books. Once you've done that, we can continue this debate.

Charles Darwin (1859). The Origin of Species.
Charles Darwin (1871). The Descent of Man.
Richard Dawkins (1976). The Selfish Gene.
Richard Dawkins (1982). The Extended Phenotype.
Richard Dawkins (1986). The Blind Watchmaker.
Richard Dawkins (1995). River out of Eden.
Richard Dawkins (1996). Climbing Mount Improbable.
Richard Dawkins (2004). The Ancestor's Tale.
Daniel Dennett (1995). Darwin's Dangerous Idea.
Daniel Dennett (2003). Freedom Evolves.
Jared Diamond (1992). The Third Chimpanzee
Michael Dowd (2008). Thank God for Evolution: How the Marriage of Science and Religion Will Transform Your Life and Our World.

Have you read those books or are you just trying to indoctrinate me?

[Ace Otana]

Have you read those books or are you just trying to indoctrinate me?

What part of I'm not an expert doesn't make sense to you?

Now If you want to understand evolution read any one of those books that I listed. In other words I'm saying I'm the wrong person to debate with in evolution. I only know bits but at lest I understand it.

So, let me say it again, if you want to understand evolution, read the books which were writen by those who know about it best. Understand now?