Speculate on Jesus 3 days of HELLISH torment !!!

[Ravenshire]

Thanks for replying.  I asked you because you seem to to be pretty familiar with the bible.  Actually the bible says Jesus was without sin, and that he was truly human.

Yes, but those two things are impossible.

So are walking on water, raising others from the dead, feeding hundreds from enough food for a few, coming back from the dead in the first place, global floods, fitting millions of species on a little boat/creating all of today's species from a handful of "kinds" in just a few thousand years, parting seas, turning staffs to snakes, making rivers run with blood, etc...

The buy-bull isn't exactly short on impossibilities.

[vorlon13]

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I'll bet Jesus enjoyed his time in hell?

Interesting conjecture via art, but I was rather picturing it the other way round.

[Iroscato]

I seem to remember you saying through the magic of cherry-picking (oh what a swiss army knife of ignorance that is!) that you don't believe people are tortured in Hell for eternity. So how much time is just long enough for someone like a rapist to learn their lesson through the application of unimaginable agony, but short enough to keep Captain Cloudfucker in the good boy books?

I don't know.

In other words "I really don't want to admit that my imaginary friend is either complete fiction or a seething fucking psychopath who has every opportunity to not make human beings suffer torture but appears to revel in its application, so I'll let the failsafe do its work rather than think for my own damn self for once."

You'll be telling us he loves us next...

[vorlon13]

Yes, but those two things are impossible.

So are walking on water, raising others from the dead, feeding hundreds from enough food for a few, coming back from the dead in the first place, global floods, fitting millions of species on a little boat/creating all of today's species from a handful of "kinds" in just a few thousand years, parting seas, turning staffs to snakes, making rivers run with blood, etc...

The buy-bull isn't exactly short on impossibilities.

Well, the coming back form the dead part is of great interest because of the gap in the narrative from expiring on the cross to resurrecting.

Presumably, what was going on in those 'lost hours' was advancing Salvation for the lucky 144,000 somehow.

I don't see how Jesus going club hopping in that interval accomplishes anything salvific.  So too if He was in some undefined 'limbo' state.  What are we to make of that idea ?  Jesus was in a discontinuous or nonconsolidated form ??   I'm picturing an amorphous quantum energy blob outside of the continuum, and that seems rather unBiblical.

So what's left ??

[Salacious B. Crumb]

This what the bible says about it.  Where ever souls existed as they they awaited the final judgement, which is yet to come, must be where Jesus went for at least some of the time.  No mention of hell or that Jesus was tormented by the devil.

1 Peter 3:18-20 English Standard Version (ESV)
18 For Christ also suffered[a] once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which[b] he went and proclaimed[c] to the spirits in prison, 20 because[d] they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

How is that an answer to: Why did jesus have to go down to hell? And, why did he have to be down there for 3 days?

Don't even worry about it, you won't even think about it. I don't know why I bother..

[Godscreated]

I think I have made a valiant effort in making the story make sense. 

Satan HAD to be appeased (compensated) in the transaction that purchased Salvation for the 144,000.   Jesus is clearly the only one tagged to pay too, never heard a christer claim anyone else's sacrifice would do. Clearly, boiling ordinary sinners in molten iron doesn't buy Salvation for anyone. Just try to imagine for a moment what Jesus would have had to willingly endure to appease Satan for the sake of the 144,000 !!!   And to do it in just a matter of several hours.

If anything, I have understated the magnitude of His (temporary) torment.   Satan would not be bought off cheap.

 You were looking for laughs and kudos, you got them too.  Satan did not have to be appeased, Satan answers to God and if you can't see that from the Bible (even though you don't believe) then you haven't read the Bible or your reading comprehension is terribly lacking.

GC

[Godscreated]

Jenny, you seem to be one of the most bible literate atheists in this forum.  Do you think that the bible says Jesus went to hell and was tortured and tormented by Satan?  Also, do you think that the bible says that Jesus died only for 144,000 people (virgin men no less)?  Maybe, in the process of getting out your frustrations with christians, you all like to make things up and then rag on us about those things.

A lot of Atheists are biblical illiterates.

Fixed that for you, I understand you got your words mixed up.

GC

[Godscreated]

I know I am again sounding like a broken record again, but damn, I'd sure like to get some christer witnesses here that are Literalist and Inerrant Believers and who eschew all this new fangled heresy, apostasy and blasphemy.

Fuck, if that caliber of religionite is all that God Almighty can cough up these days, he's doomed, doomed I say.

 The One who's in control of everything is doomed, no that's funny.

GC

[Silver]

A lot of Atheists are biblical illiterates.

Fixed that for you, I understand you got your words mixed up.

GC

You did not fix anything.

After all, one single denomination withing the multitude of the Christian religion can be considered biblically illiterate by any other denomination due to the differences in interpreting scripture.

If there is dissension within your own ranks, how can you presume to judge those who do not believe?

[Godscreated]

Why wouldn't the christer cause be enhanced with additional Jesus suffering beyond his hours on the cross??  I'm surprised this is even an issue.  
There is almost universal horror of gay stuff in the christer orbit, having their Salvation purchased by their Jesus suffering mightily at the hands, er, well, the barbed and cloven penis of Satan,  would make their Eternal Reward all the more precious, no ??

What am I missing here ??

Could it be a heart?

GC