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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 8:57 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 8:55 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 8:51 pm)Losty Wrote: I most certainly would have tried to save him. What kind of person stands around and watches/assists a murder?
Isn't the story that Jesus rose from the dead to live forever ?
Doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice when you put it like that.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 8:57 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 8:55 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 8:51 pm)Losty Wrote: I most certainly would have tried to save him. What kind of person stands around and watches/assists a murder?
Isn't the story that Jesus rose from the dead to live forever ?
How is that relevant. For one, I don't believe any of that crap. Secondly, the bible was written long after this happened. None of those people thought we would love forever. They had no excuse to stand around and watch as he was killed.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:12 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 8:57 pm)Losty Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 8:55 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Isn't the story that Jesus rose from the dead to live forever ?
How is that relevant. For one, I don't believe any of that crap. Secondly, the bible was written long after this happened. None of those people thought we would love forever. They had no excuse to stand around and watch as he was killed.
Losty,
It may be thought that what I put was part of the story of Jesus regardless of who believes or not.
Do you think in the story Jesus didn't choose to die ?
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:18 pm
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(June 15, 2016 at 9:12 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Do you think in the story Jesus didn't choose to die ?
I'd have to ask the author, but he died many years after he/she made up the tale .... But maybe asking why "God had forsaken" him appears that according to the plot the Jesus Character thought, "Oh shit I wasn't expecting this" ....
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:18 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 8:57 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 8:55 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Isn't the story that Jesus rose from the dead to live forever ?
Doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice when you put it like that.
ApeNotKillApe,
You may think of it as like a big reward.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:20 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 8:57 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice when you put it like that.
ApeNotKillApe,
You may think of it as like a big reward.
As its just a story we may think of it anyway we want .... actually thats exactly what Christians do ....
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:22 pm
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(June 15, 2016 at 9:12 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Do you think in the story Jesus didn't choose to die ?
It's nice that we at least try to help suicidal people now, don't you think?
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:22 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 8:34 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Absolutely. I'd save him, take him some place secluded and discretely strangle the f*cker to death. Then I'd burn the body. That way, if Jesus' death is indeed necessary for salvation of humankind - god's will would have been fulfilled and our sins - forgiven. But we'd have been spared all the christian bullsh*t... The Jews said that they killed Jesus using five different methods. You only use two. So you sill have three other methods available to use.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:22 pm
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(June 15, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 8:57 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice when you put it like that.
ApeNotKillApe,
You may think of it as like a big reward.
Sacrifice for reward isn't a sacrifice, it's a transaction. In this case, Jesus gave his life and in turn was given the throne over all creation for all time.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
June 15, 2016 at 9:22 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: This is for both theists and atheists to answer.
Imagine you travel back in time, and have the opportunity to save Jesus from being humiliated, tortured horribly, dying a slow painful death, having his body desecrated by the Roman guards, etc.
There is no question that your attempt would be successful.
Would you?
Here the atheist go again assuming they can do something like go back in time. That's one reason I find most unreliable in what they say, they want to pretend instead of dealing with the facts, this pretending stuff sounds most illogical. Those who answered they would do something are just spouting off like their something, you would have coward at the knees of the Romans like everyone else except Jesus. He accepted the Father's plan and carried it to the very end and beginning.
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