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MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:36 am)ignoramus Wrote: Too late for that Bella... You're practically a muslim state now!

Shut those fucking gates I tell ya!

Last resort in case of muslim invasion: nuke yourself from orbit as long as you still have them.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:33 am)robvalue Wrote:
(July 19, 2016 at 5:25 am)Alex K Wrote: I  can accept that unilaterally scrapping all nukes could potentially be a bad idea, even if a world without nuclear weapons would be desirable. Is there something about the Tridents that is especially contentious?

It costs a fuck ton of money to keep it.

I don't think us having nukes is necessary, desirable or moral, from what (little) I know about it.

Patrols only started in 1994. Now we're going to spend 205 billion UKP to replace it.

Think what that 205 billion could do if it was invested in research and education. But no, we'll spend it on a useless weapon of mass destruction because it helps some politicians in Westminster wave their cocks around and feel better about their jobs.

I look forward to the day Scotland gets its independence and the rest England and Wales need to find somewhere to store them.
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#13
RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:36 am)ignoramus Wrote: Too late for that Bella... You're practically a muslim state now!

Shut those fucking gates I tell ya!

We're heading in that direction, yeah.
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
Do I hear a coinpurse rattling?  The UK's gonna buy a few bil worth of second hand weapons from us again, are they?   Wink
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:50 am)Rhythm Wrote: Do I hear a coinpurse rattling?  The UK's gonna buy a few bil worth of second hand weapons from us again, are they?   Wink

Probably, yeah. I personally would like to see less reliance on the US for our nuclear weapons. Maybe in the future.
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:40 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(July 19, 2016 at 5:33 am)robvalue Wrote: It costs a fuck ton of money to keep it.

I don't think us having nukes is necessary, desirable or moral, from what (little) I know about it.

Patrols only started in 1994. Now we're going to spend 205 billion UKP to replace it.

Think what that 205 billion could do if it was invested in research and education. But no, we'll spend it on a useless weapon of mass destruction because it helps some politicians in Westminster wave their cocks around and feel better about their jobs.
The 205 billion or the equivalent could do great things, but is getting rid of the stockpile a viable global policy option right now?
Quote:I look forward to the day Scotland gets its independence and the rest England and Wales need to find somewhere to store them.
There'll probably be some agreement and money will flow from A to B to keep them where they are? Keeping nukes in different countries has a long tradition.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:40 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(July 19, 2016 at 5:33 am)robvalue Wrote: It costs a fuck ton of money to keep it.

I don't think us having nukes is necessary, desirable or moral, from what (little) I know about it.

Patrols only started in 1994. Now we're going to spend 205 billion UKP to replace it.

Think what that 205 billion could do if it was invested in research and education. But no, we'll spend it on a useless weapon of mass destruction because it helps some politicians in Westminster wave their cocks around and feel better about their jobs.

I look forward to the day Scotland gets its independence and the rest England and Wales need to find somewhere to store them.

Could you please let me know where you got £205bn from??

Useless?  The naivety there really is quite astounding.  I'd suggest the need is greater now than it ever was in the time of the cold war.
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 5:50 am)Rhythm Wrote: Do I hear a coinpurse rattling?  The UK's gonna buy a few bil worth of second hand weapons from us again, are they?   Wink

Buy? No we're going to lease them from America. Buying suggests that it's an independent deterrent and that we're not in anyway dependent on America's permission to use them.

http://www.cnduk.org/images/stories/brie...liance.pdf

Not only that, but it means that after making such a large investment, we need to stay subservient to the US and agree to whatever they ask in order to stay in their good books. So whatever country the US wants to invade for oil, the UK will be forced to help out.
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RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
(July 19, 2016 at 6:00 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(July 19, 2016 at 5:50 am)Rhythm Wrote: Do I hear a coinpurse rattling?  The UK's gonna buy a few bil worth of second hand weapons from us again, are they?   Wink

Buy? No we're going to lease them from America. Buying suggests that it's an independent deterrent and that we're not in anyway dependent on America's permission to use them.

http://www.cnduk.org/images/stories/brie...liance.pdf

Not only that, but it means that after making such a large investment, we need to stay subservient to the US and agree to whatever they ask in order to stay in their good books. So whatever country the US wants to invade for oil, the UK will be forced to help out.

Sorry, but I know that to be total bollocks.  It just isn't true.
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#20
RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
Better than having nothing at all.
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