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MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
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First you leave the EU, and the next thing I hear you're all about new boomers. Rightward drift?
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 RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
July 19, 2016 at 6:53 am
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 10:39 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(July 19, 2016 at 5:33 am)Bella Morte Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 5:22 am)robvalue Wrote: I don't know very much about the specifics. Any country that has nukes is just one extra chance to put the whole world in danger. If anyone ever actually starts a nuclear war the world is fucked, so the less countries with it the better. AND it costs a fucking ton of money TOO. What a waste. 
Speaking of 200 billion (pounds, dollars, whatever):
Simpson Bowles committee identified $200000000000 in redundant, wasteful, redundant, stupid, redundant, fraudulent and redundant spending in the US government spending EVERY YEAR. And their report was greeted with universal ennui. Idunno, $200000000000 sounds like real money to me that could do much good if wrested from the grip of the wasters. As for nukes, you need 'em to do this: ![[Image: alien-sigourneyweaver-nuke-riley-orbit-1348491814r.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=iruntheinternet.com%2Flulzdump%2Fimages%2Fgifs%2Falien-sigourneyweaver-nuke-riley-orbit-1348491814r.gif)
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
There are more cost effective ways to deploy nukes. Just not as sneaky.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
A Ripley endorsed deployment strategy is good enough for me.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
RE: MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system
July 19, 2016 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 11:50 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The point of those subs isn't actually to be sneaky. They're part of the whole MAD thing from the cold war...where you want the other guy to know that they exist, that even if you managed to obliterate their country in a massive, unilateral nuclear strike.....you're still going to get roasted yourself. Defense isn't the word I'd use for that, because ostensibly, they won't be used in that capacity unless there's nothing left to defend in the first place. I don;t know if they put doubts in the heart of the enemy, or whatever the official line about them might be..either. Anyone who decides to nuke the UK is going to have bigger problems than 4 cheap ass ohio knock offs......
I think it's more a point of national pride, and of wanting to be at that table.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
I despise the concept of nuclear weapons with every cell in my body and would see them wiped from the face of the earth in an instant if I had the power to do so.
That being said...I don't, and I also accept the necessity of them, not to mention the inevitability. That horse has looooong bolted, so all we can do is keep them as the weapons that must never be used.
Mhairi Black sums up my feelings on the matter and puts it far more eloquently than I could. Basically the only use for these weapons are for the self esteem of Westminster politicians.
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