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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 11:17 am
(October 26, 2016 at 10:44 am)Losty Wrote: (October 26, 2016 at 4:16 am)Mariosep Wrote: For posters who are still waiting for my proof of the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning...
Read the OP reproduced by yours truly, below.
There's no proof of anything anywhere in here... I'm not even sure which god he's talking about now. I've never read any holy writ that shows a deity creating the universe. The holy books we read today were written by men in the middle of the desert in the middle of the Eurasian continent. They had no concept of a universe or even that the earth is round.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 11:38 am
(October 25, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Asmodee says" "So why don't we keep it simple? Tell me to which god you are referring? Where is this god defined? Is it just a definition you came up with yourself?"
I have said this nth times here in this thread, "My concept of God is that in concept God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
That describes thousands of gods. Can you be more specific? Is this a concept in your head of a god not yet described by anyone else?
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 11:55 am
(October 26, 2016 at 11:38 am)Asmodee Wrote: (October 25, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Asmodee says" "So why don't we keep it simple? Tell me to which god you are referring? Where is this god defined? Is it just a definition you came up with yourself?"
I have said this nth times here in this thread, "My concept of God is that in concept God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
That describes thousands of gods. Can you be more specific? Is this a concept in your head of a god not yet described by anyone else?
Short of telepathy, it's kinda hard to prove a concept. Sorry kid, but you won't find too many psychics on an atheist forum.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:01 pm
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Let's see, my concept of god: god is magic, god is fantasy, god is delusion, god is an excuse, god is an escape, god is a manipulation, god is illogic, god is non factual, god is untrue, god is anecdotal.
OK, your turn Mario, prove me wrong.
Edit: Oops, I almost forgot: god is man made. According to your words (and assuming your are human): "God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
Sounds man made to me, not god made.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:30 pm
(October 26, 2016 at 4:33 am)Mariosep Wrote: Well. I am now sure that the message has been put in abeyance.
The message should be flushed down the shitter.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:30 pm
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(October 26, 2016 at 4:16 am)Mariosep Wrote: For posters who are still waiting for my proof of the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning...
Read the OP reproduced by yours truly, below.
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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
24th October 2016, 17:27
This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?
I refuted your 'proof' in post #44.
I took every one of your premises, and demonstrated exactly which logical fallacy they committed.
Several other people also pointed out the same fallacies.
Not sure if you are aware of this, but if your syllogism commits logical fallacies, it can not prove its conclusion.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:33 pm
(October 26, 2016 at 4:33 am)Mariosep Wrote: Well. I am now sure that the message has been put in abeyance.
abeyance: what a strange word
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:38 pm
(October 26, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Irrational Wrote: (October 26, 2016 at 4:33 am)Mariosep Wrote: Well. I am now sure that the message has been put in abeyance.
abeyance: what a strange word
It may have been a typo.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:41 pm
(October 26, 2016 at 11:02 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: (October 26, 2016 at 4:02 am)robvalue Wrote: If you want to understand why evidence is important, and that arguments alone do not demonstrate anything about reality, please see my video.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 26, 2016 at 12:57 pm
Okay Mario, here is my concept of "God":
'A figment of superstitious imagination, a placeholding descriptor for natural phenomenal cause in lieu of actual explanation, historically used for indoctrination and sociopolitical control, until shown conclusively to be otherwise.'
Your go.
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