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Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 5:43 am (This post was last modified: April 11, 2017 at 5:43 am by larson.)
(April 10, 2017 at 8:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When you say primitive societies, do you mean ancient ones or are you referring to conservative America and some Muslim societies?

I mean primitive as in early stage
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 6:03 am
(April 11, 2017 at 5:43 am)larson Wrote:
(April 10, 2017 at 8:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When you say primitive societies, do you mean ancient ones or are you referring to conservative America and some Muslim societies?

I mean primitive as in early stage

What do you mean by feminisn?
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 6:13 am (This post was last modified: April 11, 2017 at 6:15 am by Regina.)
(April 10, 2017 at 9:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 10, 2017 at 8:30 pm)larson Wrote: Is it possible in theory that feminism in some form could conceivably have existed in prehistoric times or in any primitive culture?

There has been much speculation among anthropologists and paleoanthropologists that fertility cults based on a mother-goddess concept significantly predate the more structured religions which arose after the agricultural revolution and the consequent growth of stratified societies.  The evidence for these concepts is slim.  Do a search on matriarchal religion.

I have no idea if that constitutes "feminism."

I guess, I guess not.

By some standards even that concept is not very feminist, as it places a woman's worth entirely on her ability to make babies. I'd imagine it's probably still preferable to the Abrahamic prescriptions for "good femalehood" though, marginally.
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 9:27 am
(April 11, 2017 at 6:03 am)Alex K Wrote:
(April 11, 2017 at 5:43 am)larson Wrote: I mean primitive as in early stage

What do you mean by feminisn?

What do you mean? I mean feminism.
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 10:10 am
(April 11, 2017 at 9:27 am)larson Wrote:
(April 11, 2017 at 6:03 am)Alex K Wrote: What do you mean by feminisn?

What do you mean? I mean feminism.

Duh. Can you be a bit more specific?
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 10:15 am
(April 11, 2017 at 10:10 am)Alex K Wrote:
(April 11, 2017 at 9:27 am)larson Wrote: What do you mean? I mean feminism.

Duh. Can you be a bit more specific?

How about you go get a dictionary, then we can start again when you're ready.
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April 11, 2017 at 10:41 am
I think the ancient Irish certainly qualify as primitive. Women in that society could inherit and own property in their own right, could divorce a husband without cause (in which event, any property she brought into the marriage with her left with her), could have her husband fined for mistreating her, and was allowed a voice and a vote in clan decisions.

I'm not sure if that counts as 'feminism' in the current pejorative sense, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of how women are treated in some modern societies.

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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 10:42 am
(April 11, 2017 at 10:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think the ancient Irish certainly qualify as primitive. Women in that society could inherit and own property in their own right, could divorce a husband without cause (in which event, any property she brought into the marriage with her left with her), could have her husband fined for mistreating her, and was allowed a voice and a vote in clan decisions.

I'm not sure if that counts as 'feminism' in the current  pejorative sense, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of how women are treated in some modern societies.

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I'm asking if there was any feminist movement. Feminism is a movement, right?
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 10:46 am
Feminism:

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.





Glad I could clear that up for all of you.
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RE: Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
April 11, 2017 at 10:48 am
(April 11, 2017 at 10:15 am)larson Wrote:
(April 11, 2017 at 10:10 am)Alex K Wrote: Duh. Can you be a bit more specific?

How about you go get a dictionary, then we can start again when you're ready.

There are many variations of feminism. If you don't think so, google it. We want to know what about feminism you would like to discuss. This you your thread, lets hear your ideas.

Or are you the theist here just baiting the hook(s) waiting for the gotcha moment?
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