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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 29, 2017 at 2:50 am
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(September 29, 2017 at 12:50 am)Cyberman Wrote: (September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Wrong, I always search for truth and there is no proof against what I know/believe and there will never be. Fortunately for me I've come into a relationship with the God of the universe and salvation and His knowledge to rely on. You on the other hand rely on fallible and corrupt man to teach you things they can't know.
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Why? Why search for truth? You think you already found it.
Yeah and the "corruptible man's knowledge" - you know the one that cures your illness and sends you to space, unlike religion that fails miserably in that despite claiming and promising the same
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 29, 2017 at 7:52 am
(September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (September 27, 2017 at 12:59 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: It's actually you who is close minded because no matter how scientific, how commonly believed, or how apparently workable or logical it may seem, no evidence of any sort can even be considered if it contradicts your sacred stories, which you insist must take priority in the event of any apparent conflict. You are the one who has to defend your preconceived notions because you're forbidden on pain of a fate worse than death to even consider that you could be wrong, and you must maintain that belief no matter how wrong you obviously are. You see your position is the definition of a closed mind—it is not a search for truth.
Wrong, I always search for truth and there is no proof against what I know/believe and there will never be. Fortunately for me I've come into a relationship with the God of the universe and salvation and His knowledge to rely on. You on the other hand rely on fallible and corrupt man to teach you things they can't know.
GC
This is exactly the fault in your thinking. Since you can't be proven wrong, you take this as a positive thing. It must feel so cosy in your god bubble.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 29, 2017 at 10:46 am
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(September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You on the other hand rely on fallible and corrupt man to teach you things they can't know.
GC What do you think you're doing when you read magic book? Do you imagine that the authors of magic book were not fallible, corrupt men..... "teaching" you what they could not know?
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 29, 2017 at 3:33 pm
I thought jesus was the father per isaiah 9:6?
A better terminology might be: nuts??
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 30, 2017 at 12:08 am
(September 29, 2017 at 12:50 am)Cyberman Wrote: (September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Wrong, I always search for truth and there is no proof against what I know/believe and there will never be. Fortunately for me I've come into a relationship with the God of the universe and salvation and His knowledge to rely on. You on the other hand rely on fallible and corrupt man to teach you things they can't know.
GC
Why? Why search for truth? You think you already found it.
I've found many truths and will always find more, for finite man truth is infinite. I have found the truth God revealed and I'm very glad I listened, this truth helps me every day of my life.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 30, 2017 at 12:20 am
(September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: there is no proof against what I know/believe and there will never be.
GC (emphasis is mine)
Now, those are the words of a true truth seeker! 
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 30, 2017 at 12:42 am
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(September 29, 2017 at 10:46 am)Khemikal Wrote: (September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You on the other hand rely on fallible and corrupt man to teach you things they can't know.
GC What do you think you're doing when you read magic book? Do you imagine that the authors of magic book were not fallible, corrupt men..... "teaching" you what they could not know?
I've read books about illusions, not much of a magician sorry to say. The Bible on the other hand is a book about life and I can say with absolute certainty that I do not live my life through magic as so many here have to to get through each day. My life is real and full of living every day.
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(September 30, 2017 at 12:20 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: there is no proof against what I know/believe and there will never be.
GC (emphasis is mine)
Now, those are the words of a true truth seeker!
You finally got something right, congratulations. 
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 30, 2017 at 5:25 am
(September 30, 2017 at 12:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: You finally got something right, congratulations.
I see sarcasm is lost on you. Just like real knowledge is.
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
September 30, 2017 at 5:16 pm
(September 30, 2017 at 12:08 am)Godscreated Wrote: (September 29, 2017 at 12:50 am)Cyberman Wrote: Why? Why search for truth? You think you already found it.
I've found many truths and will always find more, for finite man truth is infinite. I have found the truth God revealed and I'm very glad I listened, this truth helps me every day of my life.
GC
But every 'truth' to you is from the box labelled "God dun did it". So all you're really doing, if you're searching for anything at all, is seeking out things that reinforce what you already think you know. Or probably more accurately, rationalising whatever comes your way to fit those preconceptions.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
October 3, 2017 at 12:14 pm
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(September 30, 2017 at 5:16 pm)Cyberman Wrote: (September 30, 2017 at 12:08 am)Godscreated Wrote: I've found many truths and will always find more, for finite man truth is infinite. I have found the truth God revealed and I'm very glad I listened, this truth helps me every day of my life.
GC
But every 'truth' to you is from the box labelled "God dun did it". So all you're really doing, if you're searching for anything at all, is seeking out things that reinforce what you already think you know. Or probably more accurately, rationalising whatever comes your way to fit those preconceptions.
Wrong through my Christian growth I've found thing I use to believe not true because God has shown me the truth of a thing wrongly believed.
GC
(September 30, 2017 at 5:25 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (September 30, 2017 at 12:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: You finally got something right, congratulations.
I see sarcasm is lost on you. Just like real knowledge is.
You must get you some glasses, see the smiley face at the end of my statement.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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