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Australia: Martyr complex among "no" voters
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I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now?
Persecution to a Christian is when they can't force their religion down other people's throats.
Funny enough, they'll attack LGBT people for being upset they can't marry their partner because in Iran you get killed for being gay, and then turn around and bitch about gay people getting married and starbucks holiday cups when being Christian gets you killed in Iran.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
 RE: Australia: Martyr complex among "no" voters
November 20, 2017 at 12:48 pm
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(November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now? Don't be so quick to judge. I think my pompous ass is wide enough for me to find condesension enough in my heart to be of help to a brother looking to get beyond his bigotry. Of course you must first want to be free of bigotry. Do you want?  (November 20, 2017 at 10:32 am)Grandizer Wrote: If you think Americans have it bad, we have to deal with similar bullshit here in Australia. Last night on an Australian talk show, a politician by the name of Jacqui Lambie had this to say in defense of those who voted (or would have) voted "no" to same sex marriage. Disgusting as it is, it does make a sort of sense. As I understand it, people who voted "No" or sympathise with such a stance do so largely because they have convinced themselves somehow that there is an actual need to forbid SSM. Many of those are sincerely unconfortable with any serious challenge to that notion. Sure, they ought to grow up already. But many of them are utterly underequiped to.
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 (November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now? You have a point. I suppose one could be a proponent of "traditional marriage"* and not be a bigot. However, if you ARE bigoted against gays, then "pro traditional marriage" is probably a very attractive position to take. *Not traditional in the sense that a marriage is a contract between two fathers as it has been since antiquity. Rather a very narrow 19th and 20th century version of traditional marriage in which a man and a woman freely chose one another to be life partners. (November 20, 2017 at 12:39 pm)Divinity Wrote: Persecution to a Christian is when they can't force their religion down other people's throats. It took me a sec to get the second point. Yes, this is hypocrisy.  (November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now? Not bigots, just deluded. The thought that christians get to enforce their religious beliefs on non christians is asinine, especially when in the minority as evidenced in Australia. This applies to marriage and abortion. The ability to apply their religious beliefs to non christians should not be tolerated. Baby killers, hahahahaha, you're really reaching now. Lets see how many take your bait.
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 (November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Nah. It's just the ones who wish to impose that view through the law that are a problem.
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November 20, 2017 at 2:07 pm
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(November 20, 2017 at 1:51 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Nearly everyone who has a value system, regardless of how they justify it, wants to have their value system reflected in civil law. People only call it "shoving it down throats" when its not their value system that's being codified. (November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now? Is someone forcing you to marry a man or abort babies again?
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