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God does not determine right and wrong
#31
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
Nations were punished by god for supposedly killing their children....by killing the children of those nations. How does this make sense? Pretty sure it was more about worshiping other deities, than doing anything else.
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#32
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
That sort of taps into one of the frightening things about religion. We all know rape, murder, torture to be wrong. But since God is totally and obviously made up, whoever wants to can just say that God wants them to behave in an immoral way.

That's been done forever.
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#33
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
Yeah, whatever your beliefs are, there's a verse somewhere that can support it. That's how you get grandmas giving to charity and white nationalists killing people, and claiming they're both christian.
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#34
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
(January 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I imagine a world where rape and murder were morally good would be a very very different world. Everything about human nature and how this world works points to those things being morally wrong.

Basically it makes no sense for God to declare rape/murder morally good, considering the world He has set up and the way He created us. They are contrary to natural law.

Rape is very clearly NOT contrary to "natural law."  Men are pretty rape-y, and that's obviously due to the evolutionary advantages of impregnating people whether they want to be impregnated or not.
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#35
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

   
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#36
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
(January 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I imagine a world where rape and murder were morally good would be a very very different world. Everything about human nature and how this world works points to those things being morally wrong.

Basically it makes no sense for God to declare rape/murder morally good, considering the world He has set up and the way He created us. They are contrary to natural law.

"Natural law" doesn't include any gods.
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#37
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
(January 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Banned Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 10:32 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: So...ordering babies murdered in retaliation is okay then?  You’re right.  Our depraved, barbaric society really should be turning to the Bible for moral salvation.  ?

So keeping the babies and killing their evil parents, leaving the children to grow up and face the nation which killed their parents, will ensure that they will grow up balanced, and somehow the laws of inheritance, which would cause those adopted to follow in the same Satanic path as their parents, will vanish?

You are one sick individual, you know that?  You either believe these people were real people, but can’t think of them as people because it threatens your  precious Yahweh, therefore allowing you to rationalize killing babies, or deep down you know the stories are fiction, and you’re lying.  Let me ask you, Banned:  are you pro-choice or pro-life?  I’ll advise you to consider what you wrote above before answering.

(January 27, 2018 at 6:54 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 11:09 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I think I’d prefer a Christian simply dismissing the OT together, rather these disgusting rape and infanticide apologetics.

Ignoring the OT is a bit dishonest, though. Yeah, I prefer the nicer christians too, but you can't say that Jesus and Yahweh are the exact same person, and then say the OT should be ignored.

Oh, it’s absolutely dishonest and irrational.  I just happen to be able to stomach it over people making excuses for murdering babies.
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#38
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Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#39
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
It takes a special kind of intellectual and moral dishonesty to try and justify killing babies, whoever they are.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#40
RE: God does not determine right and wrong
Societal reform, so that children don't grow up like their parents, is beyond the wisdom of Yahweh. Just killing the lot of them is easier.
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