What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[Drich]

glob..
Our planet is 3 dimensional yes, but our existence is 4. The fourth being time. without the measure time the objects defined by the measure of length width and height are frozen in place. So again yes while science can indeed well define the objects found readily in the three dimensions it has no protocol to account for what s lost to time, besides guessing

Time.  Measured by our awareness as related to the earth's rotation.  So?  Time has no bearing on the existence or non-existence of any deities, and certainly provides no proof of the existence of such creatures.  And sure, we can say a lot about "what's lost to time" (lol) whole disciplines are built around it.  Time was once proposed as a 4th dimension but that was 100 years ago.  Here is a good article on the subject. 
  https://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists...space.html     
“With clocks we measure the numerical order of motion in 3D space,” Sorli told Phys.org. “Time is 'separated' from space in a sense that time is not a fourth dimension of space. Instead, time as a numerical order of change exists in a 3D space. Our model on space and time is founded on measurement and corresponds better to physical reality.”

don't be dense.

If side deity was reported to walk among us 2000 years ago (a measure of time outside the scope of 'science') then science is restricted by time however you want to classify it.

[He lives]

Pro tip, Banned:  Drop the amateur psychiatrist shtick.  It's just making you look like a pretentious ass, and a liar to boot.  Is that really the impression you want to give of your religion?

At least it would be an honest impression.

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The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

I'll enjoy making mince-meat of you either way,

With what? You have only got hypothesis, nothing more. DNA tells us a different story:

DNA is coded with a tremendous amount of information and it is not random information either. It is not there by happenstance nor could it be assumed that nature could put it there. Is nature an intelligent life form? If so perhaps it could code DNA but it isn't so. So if nature did not add the code to the DNA, who did?

Yap, yap, yap. Assertion after assertion. Show some balls little man. Present some evidence and quit blowing smoke.

The evidence is DNA. DNA was engineered, it is too complex to have come about by happenstance.

[The Grand Nudger]

DNA is neither engineered -nor- a product of "happenstance". It's deoxyribonucleic acid, one of those chemicals with "specific activities"- in this case self replication...constrained on all sides by organic chemistry and demonstrably a product -of- organic chemistry.

[drfuzzy]

Time.  Measured by our awareness as related to the earth's rotation.  So?  Time has no bearing on the existence or non-existence of any deities, and certainly provides no proof of the existence of such creatures.  And sure, we can say a lot about "what's lost to time" (lol) whole disciplines are built around it.  Time was once proposed as a 4th dimension but that was 100 years ago.  Here is a good article on the subject. 
  https://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists...space.html     
“With clocks we measure the numerical order of motion in 3D space,” Sorli told Phys.org. “Time is 'separated' from space in a sense that time is not a fourth dimension of space. Instead, time as a numerical order of change exists in a 3D space. Our model on space and time is founded on measurement and corresponds better to physical reality.”

don't be dense.

If side deity was reported to walk among us 2000 years ago (a measure of time outside the scope of 'science') then science is restricted by time however you want to classify it.

Say . . . what?  Yeah, maybe I am dense.  That made absolutely NO sense.
A "deity", according to some books of fables, supposedly walked on the planet 2000 years ago.  We understand 2000 years very well.  That's time.  It's a numerical measure of the earth's rotation.  Yes, science is restricted by time.  Every creature, every plant, the earth itself, the solar system, is measured by time.

This does not make time a 4th dimension, it is a measurement only.  And that measurement provides absolutely no data applicable to the existence of any deity.

[He lives]

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The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

I'll enjoy making mince-meat of you either way,

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With what? You have only got hypothesis, nothing more. DNA tells us a different story:

DNA is coded with a tremendous amount of information and it is not random information either. It is not there by happenstance nor could it be assumed that nature could put it there. Is nature an intelligent life form? If so perhaps it could code DNA but it isn't so. So if nature did not add the code to the DNA, who did?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2...fe-itself/

56 pages in this thread.  You have been presented with a huge amount of links to respected, current, scientific research on the subject of abiogenesis, DNA, evolution, etc., etc.
I would bet my house that you have not studied the material presented to you.

You just keep vomiting out your ignorant, blinkered, fairy-tale moronic drivel, it never changes.  You mind isn't just closed, it's fossilized.  Every time you post "happenstance" and try to point to nature as proof of a deity -- you sound like a child screaming that SANTA DOES EXIST HE DOES HE DOES HE DOES YOU'RE A STUPID POOPY HEAD!!!!   I would say that I really pity you, but actually I'm terrified that you might have children.  Those poor, poor, crippled, abused little things.  PLEASE tell me you didn't breed.

I have read up on evolution and the "could have" articles. It is all a bunch of hypothesis which I would call junk science. Man could not have evolved from a one celled animal. Mayflies have a lifespan of 24 hours. In the last 50 years they have passed through numerous generations without evolving into something other than a mayfly.

[The Grand Nudger]

I have read up on evolution and the "could have" articles. It is all a bunch of hypothesis which I would call junk science. Man could not have evolved from a one celled animal.

OFC not..and, conveniently, we didn't..so what's the problem?  

Mayflies have a lifespan of 24 hours. In the last 50 years they have passed through numerous generations without evolving into something other than a mayfly.

All descendants of mayflies will always be mayflies, no matter what else they become. Just as all descendants of eukarya are eukaryotic, all animalia are animals, all chordata possess notochords, all vertebrata have spines, all mammalia are mammals, all primatae are primates, all hominidae are hominids, so on and so forth.

Whatever our children may one day become.."homo sapiens" will appear in their full classification.

[drfuzzy]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2...fe-itself/

56 pages in this thread.  You have been presented with a huge amount of links to respected, current, scientific research on the subject of abiogenesis, DNA, evolution, etc., etc.
I would bet my house that you have not studied the material presented to you.

You just keep vomiting out your ignorant, blinkered, fairy-tale moronic drivel, it never changes.  You mind isn't just closed, it's fossilized.  Every time you post "happenstance" and try to point to nature as proof of a deity -- you sound like a child screaming that SANTA DOES EXIST HE DOES HE DOES HE DOES YOU'RE A STUPID POOPY HEAD!!!!   I would say that I really pity you, but actually I'm terrified that you might have children.  Those poor, poor, crippled, abused little things.  PLEASE tell me you didn't breed.

I have read up on evolution and the "could have" articles. It is all a bunch of hypothesis which I would call junk science. Man could not have evolved from a one celled animal. Mayflies have a lifespan of 24 hours. In the last 50 years they have passed through numerous generations without evolving into something other than a mayfly.

You can't possibly have paid proper attention to the actual science if you're ignorant enough to present that mayfly analogy.  Any educated teenager can tell you that time and reproduction are not the only driving forces of the natural selection process.  They could also show you current, ongoing examples of evolution being measured and documented.
Mayflies.  Seriously?  That one was even more ridiculously ignorant than the 747 example.  Give it up, troll poe.  You dig your painfully obvious ignorance hole deeper with every post.
Mayflies.     You didn't graduate from middle school, did you?  Or are you from a long line of sisters and brothers marrying each other - like the fantasy offspring of "Adam and Eve".

You only hold your position because you've been told all of your life that an absurd book of fairy tales is literal truth, and that your sky demon imaginary monster god will fry you forever if you dare to question it.  That's the only possible answer for rejecting hard science in favor of delusions.

[He lives]

I have read up on evolution and the "could have" articles. It is all a bunch of hypothesis which I would call junk science. Man could not have evolved from a one celled animal.

OFC not..and, conveniently, we didn't..so what's the problem?  

Mayflies have a lifespan of 24 hours. In the last 50 years they have passed through numerous generations without evolving into something other than a mayfly.

All descendants of mayflies will always be mayflies, no matter what else they become.  Just as all descendants of eukarya are eukaryotic, all animalia are animals, all chordata possess notochords, all vertebrata have spines, all mammalia are mammals, all primatae are primates, all hominidae are hominids, so on and so forth.

Whatever our children may one day become.."homo sapiens" will appear in their full classification.

So you believe that plants have always been plants, reptiles have always been reptiles,, and mammals have always been mammals etc?

[The Grand Nudger]

I'm not sure what belief has to do with it.  Yes..of course..mammals have always been mammals.  That a mammal is a mammal is even less than a tautology.....? Can you find a single mammal that isn't a mammal and hasn't always been a mammal?

[He lives]

I have read up on evolution and the "could have" articles. It is all a bunch of hypothesis which I would call junk science. Man could not have evolved from a one celled animal. Mayflies have a lifespan of 24 hours. In the last 50 years they have passed through numerous generations without evolving into something other than a mayfly.

You can't possibly have paid proper attention to the actual science if you're ignorant enough to present that mayfly analogy.  Any educated teenager can tell you that time and reproduction are not the only driving forces of the natural selection process.  They could also show you current, ongoing examples of evolution being measured and documented.
Mayflies.  Seriously?  That one was even more ridiculously ignorant than the 747 example.  Give it up, troll poe.  You dig your painfully obvious ignorance hole deeper with every post.
Mayflies.     You didn't graduate from middle school, did you?  Or are you from a long line of sisters and brothers marrying each other - like the fantasy offspring of "Adam and Eve".

You only hold your position because you've been told all of your life that an absurd book of fairy tales is literal truth, and that your sky demon imaginary monster god will fry you forever if you dare to question it.  That's the only possible answer for rejecting hard science in favor of delusions.

Bold added. These are examples of adaptation, not evolution, there was no species change here. The birds are still birds, fish are still fish, reptiles are still reptiles etc.