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So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
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RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
(March 14, 2018 at 3:46 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(March 14, 2018 at 3:40 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:



I thought everyone knew about this.

Almost everyone did.   Big Grin
Admittedly, Trump did do his tap dancing and mental jujitsu to try to deflect the question. He has a habit of going on seemingly pointless monologues anyway.
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#32
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
Of course Trump does not ask god . In his mind why should he ask himself for forgiveness .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#33
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
You guys must be quite happy that, as atheists, you're allowed to support immoral candidates.  Somehow you think that the bible teaches that we can't support any candidate who is immoral.  Please stop making judgments about what you obviously don't understand. You aren't here to have a discussion, but rather to condemn.  That's the same thing of which you accuse christians.
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#34
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
Quote:You guys must be quite happy that, as atheists, you're allowed to support immoral candidates. 

What's your fucking excuse? 

You know, even in CONFESSION you are supposed to admit the sin.  You are not supposed to keep trying to bribe the witnesses to remain silent.

Or didn't anyone ever tell you that?
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#35
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
Quote:You guys must be quite happy that, as atheists, you're allowed to support immoral candidates.
 Demanding you assholes be consistent before preaching is just that . and your first statement is word twisting bullshit . 


Quote: Somehow you think that the bible teaches that we can't support any candidate who is immoral.
You can but it exposes your inconsistent morality. Do as you say not as you do . And shows that you'll compromise your morals when it's convenient 


Quote:Please stop making judgments about what you obviously don't understand. 

No we understand perfectly well. Your hypocrites 




Quote:You aren't here to have a discussion, but rather to condemn.

What's there to discusses . Your hypocrites .





Quote:  That's the same thing of which you accuse christians.
Their is a difference between judging and pointing out hypocrisy 
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#36
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
(March 14, 2018 at 3:40 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:
(March 14, 2018 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote: No He didn't.

He said: "I will be asking for forgiveness, but hopefully I won’t have to be asking for much forgiveness. As you know, I am Presbyterian and Protestant. I’ve had great relationships and developed even greater relationships with ministers. We have tremendous support from the clergy. I think I will be doing very well during the election with evangelicals and with Christians," 
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-forgiveness-god-224068





I thought everyone knew about this.

1:40 on the video sport
Trump has his little wine and eats his little cracker and seeks atonement through this ceremony. afterward he feels cleansed.

Atonement is not a laided out ceremony. we can do it any way we please.
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#37
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
Bullshit

Yeah i'm sure he does Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#38
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
(March 14, 2018 at 4:25 pm)Lek Wrote: You guys must be quite happy that, as atheists, you're allowed to support immoral candidates.  Somehow you think that the bible teaches that we can't support any candidate who is immoral.  Please stop making judgments about what you obviously don't understand. You aren't here to have a discussion, but rather to condemn.  That's the same thing of which you accuse christians.
Jeffries and all the other Evangelical preachers supporting him that I know of, insist he's a changed man. There's no evidence of that. The thing is he's already elected. They could criticize him sharply but they don't. If Obama had done this, you know he would be all over that. I don't see it happening but if it was found that Bernie cheated on his wife, I don't think it would change my vote but I would at least admit "He's an asshole for treating his wife like that."

You have some Evangelical leaders making Trump out to be a man of God. The mental Jujitsu required for that is extraordinary. Even if I cared enough to do research, and I did find that the bible says "No you cannot support a leader with terrible personal morals" there would always be wiggle room for interpretation.

Of course you have David himself a homicidal adulterer, as apparently one of the old testaments greatest kings. Just as seriously in my book he was also a torturer.

So maybe you have a point

But they at least shouldn't make themselves out to be imbeciles by saying he's some sort of Christian man chosen by god. If they don't, don't they then have to admit that Obama, who almost certainly didn't commit adultery, was also chosen by god? (By the way I think Obama was an average president, but still the best of my lifetime, this has been a bad 37 years for presidents)
(March 14, 2018 at 5:07 pm)Drich Wrote:
(March 14, 2018 at 3:40 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:



I thought everyone knew about this.

1:40 on the video sport
Trump has his little wine and eats his little cracker and seeks atonement through this ceremony. afterward he feels cleansed.

Atonement is not a laided out ceremony. we can do it any way we please.
It's a fundamental doctrine of Christianity that you have to ask god for forgiveness. I have never heard of a denomination that this isn't so.

To be honest, I would rather he do something about it when he screws up rather than drink his little wine and eat his little cracker.

But really it's obvious he doesn't believe in any of it. I don't think he's turned the other cheek since before I was born.
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#39
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
Quote:Trump has his little wine and eats his little cracker

When the WLB says he eats his little cracker he means some southern hooker.
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#40
RE: So Bible rules don't apply to rich white people
(March 14, 2018 at 5:51 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: It's a fundamental doctrine of Christianity that you have to ask god for forgiveness. I have never heard of a denomination that this isn't so.

To be honest, I would rather he do something about it when he screws up rather than drink his little wine and eat his little cracker.

But really it's obvious he doesn't believe in any of it. I don't think he's turned the other cheek since before I was born.

What better place than to seek atonement than during the ceremony established by Christ to reminded us of what he has done. For a long time this was my point of atonement as well.

Again despite what the church says. there isn't an actual forgiveness ceremony. we can seek God grace any number of ways.
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