There Is No Sin!

[Fireball]

I'm thinking of a chair made of anti-matter . . . .

  Stay out of my universe, bud! Though it must exist somewhere, I ain't sitting in it.

[Godscreated]

You are using wishful thinking still, so who is it that has truly disappointed their teachers. Once the first chair was built the concept of a chair disappeared, the only concept left for the chair is the different ways in which it has been built.

GC

Incorrect.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concept?s=t

In no way does the concept disappear if the subject exists.  Someone can close her eyes and quite easily conceptualize a chair.  

Someone can even easily conceptualize that which does not exist, which is shown throughout history just how powerful is the imagination of man; especially when it comes to such supernatural concepts as god and the boogeyman.

 That resource doesn't give any hint to a concept existing after the object becomes reality. You really need to find out what a concept is.

GC

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You are using wishful thinking still, so who is it that has truly disappointed their teachers. Once the first chair was built the concept of a chair disappeared, the only concept left for the chair is the different ways in which it has been built.

GC

Concepts are mental representations of both abstractions and actual, real things. If you can think of a rock, you have a concept of a rock. Your concept of rock was generalized/abstracted from you learning the common properties of rocks. There are millions of different types of chair, your abstract concept of 'chairs' is what lets you recognize both an arm chair and a beanbag chair as both being chairs. If the concept of chair actually disappeared, you'd cease to know what a chair is.

That's not even close to reality, a rock can't be a concept because it existed before man, man neither conceptualized a rock nor made one, you might say God did though.

GC

[Minimalist]

Been there, done, that, G-C.  We've tried your religious horseshit before.  Humanity was tortured by sanctimonious fuckheads like you for thousands of years and in the Middle East it continues.



Fuck religion.  Fuck your god.  Fuck you.

[chimp3]

No such thing as sin!

There are crimes. There are actions which hurt others. There are actions which harm the planet. There is plenty of wrongdoing. 

Humans are capable of change. We are capable of forgiveness. Forgiveness is a human concept. 

I am not a sinner!

Well according to you, there is no such thing as egg-laying mammals either, so maybe you're just mistaken all around...

Sllly! I have already admitted my mistake about monotremes. Pay attention. I am not a sinner. Neither are you. We are both mammals. Primates. Cousins to the chimpanzees. Humans created gods and the concept of sin.

[Banned]

I am not a sinner. Neither are you. We are both mammals. Primates. Cousins to the chimpanzees. Humans created gods and the concept of sin.

Sin is just an old name for crime or breaking of the law of God.

If you say there isn't any sin, then there isn't any law of God, and of course you aren't a sinner.

In the absence of these, who or what determines what crime is?

[chimp3]

I am not a sinner. Neither are you. We are both mammals. Primates. Cousins to the chimpanzees. Humans created gods and the concept of sin.

Sin is just an old name for crime or breaking of the law of God.

If you say there isn't any sin, then there isn't any law of God, and of course you aren't a sinner.

In the absence of these, who or what determines what crime is?

Humans created gods and their laws. We create laws and determine what crime is. We always have. IMHO, We just do not have sky fairies to embellish our laws and law givers with extra authority. One crime is called fraud. The creators of the concept of sin committed fraud and are guilty of this crime.
I hold the humans perpetuating these lies accountable today. In the court of public opinion, that is.

[Mister Agenda]

That's not even close to reality, a rock can't be a concept because it existed before man, man neither conceptualized a rock nor made one, you might say God did though.

GC

OK, let's try again: your concept of a rock is how you know a rock is a rock. Without having a concept of a rock, you wouldn't know what one is. It's how you can tell a rock you've never seen before is a rock. Because you know what a rock is. You have a concept of what a rock is. If you see an object that doesn't fit that concept, you conclude it is not a rock.

[rskovride]

Does the rock even exist without the concept of it? Or does the rock exist without the absence of the rock?


Edited to add: What does it mean to be a rock, what is rockyness?

[The Grand Nudger]

Something tells me that a mountain is still there when I'm not looking at it, and regardless of whether or not I had ever seen a mountain or had a concept of a mountain.

[Whateverist]

Questions for believers: who created sin?

Follow up question for believers: was God unable to create a world without sin or just unwilling?