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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:35 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 5:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 5:47 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Nowhere in all of that; I’m sorry; rambling, is anything resembling proof. Why is it so hard for you to just admit you don’t have any? At least I could respect the honesty.
I don't have any, I just point to the who are the proofs that have plenty of evidence and proofs they can show you of themselves and their holy sacred position. No scripture can be understood in the way it's meant to be at the level it's meant to be without the Guides the scriptures call to and appoint, to manifest it's wonders.
Scripture will never be enough despite Atlas repeating it, it's not the solution to abandon hadiths because they are mixed with falsehood, but go to them with reflection and courage, and only accept what you perceive and seek them to gain perceptions.
I haven't prove the above in this statement, merely, telling you the paradigm I work with.
I think whether you believe in God or Messengers or Guides or don't, you ought to give God a chance to guide through the means he has chosen as a means towards himself.
As for the above sentence, I have provided so much reasoning for this over the year and I'm not going to repeat it all.
Some book tells stories about some characters from a long time ago who said they heard some stuff about a god they all believed in. I should take this book seriously because...why?
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:35 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 6:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 6:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: MK, I love my grandfather as hard as the day is long...but that doesn't mean the mans right about anything in particular or that I'd do what he does just because I love him. That's not a solution to any problem at all. That's just you telling us who you have the goodfeels for.
In case you weren't aware that we were already aware...we know you super duper love your imams and allah and all of that.
Love values a relationship as it's meant to be.
The relationship we are suppose to have with the Guides is to make them the eyes by which we see.
(March 28, 2018 at 5:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Why all the drama?
So if God helps, he is condemned for helping, and we don't take his help because we hate authority vested in his chosen ones, we blame him. And if he doesn't help, than the drama we blame on who exactly? Both cases, it's us. I rather God help us out of our injustice then sit by and watch.
(March 28, 2018 at 6:07 pm)Hammy Wrote: Anyone else love how right LFC is?
I think she is married and you got to get over her. 
"Meant to be"
Nope sorry, there are only TWO things certain in life, death and taxes.
Everything else is doing your best, even if you fail.
You really need to STOP being so dreamy eyed about life. Reality is messy, and sometimes you don't get what you want.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:36 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 6:32 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 6:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Per Atlas paradigm, this works. It would be the best solution.
Per my paradigm it would be disaster causing things to be far worse. People would say, who is the proper interpreters. We all dispute regarding what it says, how do we know?
And the answer is always love, that has always been the answer and will always be the answer. Love towards the chosen leaders and the light of theirs that is found in all life, is the solution.
Always has been and always will be. People are jealous of what the grace vested in his chosen ones. They hate the idea of God selecting leaders and would rather everyone be on the same level.
But you can't love what you don't know at all, and so the books elaborate and manifest his beautiful navigating Captains who are instances of his name. They even manifest a consistent number with respect to the successors of the founder.
??
Why the bad mouth; Mystic?
Behave; boy. I dealt with you in respect in the past period; but no need to go ape shit on the people who treat you nicely.
So again: behave; boy.
Your Paradigm; faith; sect and Imams are made up shit, pooped by some motherfuckers who wanted to control the Middle East. The assholes kept killing us for centuries, in this age they bomb mosques and burn public gatherings; so...the shit is what you believe in; and what your paradigm suggests.
-__- and again: behave, boyo. And fuck you Atlas, I don't mean you are jealous of them. I don't know if you are or are not, and I won't assume you are.
I meant people always distorted revelations due to jealousy of the chosen ones and their followers. That has always been the problem. This is why the Torah emphasizes jealousy issue a lot. The Quran the same.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:44 pm
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(March 28, 2018 at 6:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 6:07 pm)Hammy Wrote: Anyone else love how right LFC is?
I think she is married and you got to get over her.
Neverrrrrrr! I think about her every day in my bedroom! I have a nice good think about her real hard too! I'm an atheist! We're allowed to covet another man's wife! We're just not allowed to actually do the rumba with them
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm
I don't take Bahaism seriously after studying it. It has similar arguments and claims, but it flaws and contradictions.
I don't really have an answer as to why you should take the Quran seriously.
You have to have a calling for it. It's so easy and yet so hard to understand. If we act sincerely and believe in God, God will guide our hearts by it. If we follow unclear aspects of it in our minds, it will become a dark path to greater destruction then ever.
So don't go to it unless you are serious that you want to journey to the truth and will do your best to be a good human being leaving all that you know is meaningless and vain.
The Quran is the easiest book for me to remind of the essential higher truths. No book has facilitate the remembrance easier then it.
You cannot understand the hadiths without it and neither you can understand Quran without hadiths.
So tread lightly at this time, don't go to it wanting to show it false and see all it's flaws that MK doesn't see. Go to it if you ever get a calling to it.
It's meant for guidance so it's for those looking for guidance and it's a means of uniting humans if that interests you.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 6:36 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 6:32 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: ??
Why the bad mouth; Mystic?
Behave; boy. I dealt with you in respect in the past period; but no need to go ape shit on the people who treat you nicely.
So again: behave; boy.
Your Paradigm; faith; sect and Imams are made up shit, pooped by some motherfuckers who wanted to control the Middle East. The assholes kept killing us for centuries, in this age they bomb mosques and burn public gatherings; so...the shit is what you believe in; and what your paradigm suggests.
-__- and again: behave, boyo. And fuck you Atlas, I don't mean you are jealous of them. I don't know if you are or are not, and I won't assume you are.
I meant people always distorted revelations due to jealousy of the chosen ones and their followers. That has always been the problem. This is why the Torah emphasizes jealousy issue a lot. The Quran the same.
You know; we a had an asshole back in the day in school.
He goes to you an says: "fuck your mama !!". And when you turn to fight, he says : "I am sorry !! sorry !!".
So; shame on you to do this in this age.
You didn't "mean". You threw Khem's words on me, you didn't even have the guts to say it to me in the face.
If you call my religion "shit"; then yours is even shittier. Plain and Simple.
And answer this question before saying another word preaching your shitty faith:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-51114-p...pid1638839
And respect your words when you said you won't discuss religion again xD
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:49 pm
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Atlas, I was a Deist at a certain time. I consider it a shitty stance to take.
I do consider your paradigm highly irrational and that of misguidance.
That said, I don't think you are a bad person or disbeliever, but searcher searching for truth and inshallah you will find it.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
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-and you two think that supernatural forces and sinster governments are working against your religions.........
Why would they waste the demonic and/or federally overpaid labor when all it takes is me blowing you both kisses? No wonder the ummah fell apart.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 6:44 pm)Hammy Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 6:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think she is married and you got to get over her.
Neverrrrrrr! I think about her every day in my bedroom! I have a nice good think about her real hard too! I'm an atheist! We're allowed to covet another man's wife! We're just not allowed to actually do the rumba with them
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
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(March 28, 2018 at 6:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Atlas, I was a Deist at a certain time. I consider it a shitty stance to take.
Personally, I think it's a reasonable stance for curious people who aren't satisfied with no answer, who haven't been educated on evolution by natural section and need an explanation for the existence of the incredible variety of life on earth without the batshitcraziness--and yes, that is the technical term--of religion.
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