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The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:18 pm
https://atheistforums.org/thread-15323.html
This thread, this thread, a lot was proven.
There is a post, that it was better to pretend for there to be value and delude humans that there is such a thing, than not create myth and let them think there is no such thing.
We hate the Shamans and Prophets of old, but they steered humans to believing in self-worth.
What if you realized there is no justifying value without God but that God was impossible to exist, what you would do?
I thought I was at that point in that thread. I wanted to believe so badly that value is possible in the Atheism paradigm, but I couldn't believe it.
Yet I thought God was impossible.
You want to see how emotionally traumatized I was, just read that thread.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:19 pm
Your inability to believe in the blisteringly obvious is a comment on your religious indoctrination, and nothing more.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:25 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2018 at 6:25 pm by chimp3.)
(April 1, 2018 at 6:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: https://atheistforums.org/thread-15323.html
This thread, this thread, a lot was proven.
There is a post, that it was better to pretend for there to be value and delude humans that there is such a thing, than not create myth and let them think there is no such thing.
We hate the Shamans and Prophets of old, but they steered humans to believing in self-worth.
What if you realized there is no justifying value without God but that God was impossible to exist, what you would do?
I thought I was at that point in that thread. I wanted to believe so badly that value is possible in the Atheism paradigm, but I couldn't believe it.
Yet I thought God was impossible.
You want to see how emotionally traumatized I was, just read that thread.
Irrelevant! In "The Selfish Gene" Dawkins said much more meaningful things about human's purpose than that. He actually advocates for living our lives in opposition to evolutionary trends. Even if it means our extinction. Read "The Selfish Gene" for yourself MK! It will not burn!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:26 pm
If words hurt you...
You need to really have a hard time.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:36 pm
(October 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (October 31, 2012 at 12:36 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Well, a lot of people do it because they think it helps, but I think most people do it because they believe that it is deserved. And I think people believe they deserve things because they believe that they are responsible for their good or bad, actions, intentions, emotions or thoughts.
Exactly, they believe it's praiseworthy. As I said, belief in praise is foundational. But is it justified? Saying we believe it's praiseworthy makes it's praiseworthy is circular reasoning though.
(October 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: You are clearly over intellectualising living day by day Mystic.
Have you considered that the "Cougar" may represent investment in a cat food company?
Have you considered that living has no rules and we "make it up as we go along" Pragmatism might work in well here.
Have you considered that your religion has poorly prepared you for REAL life?
Have you considered that you "passions" are the very motivation you NEED to move towards you desired outcomes?
IF you have NOT considered at least the few things then izslam has done you a great disservice my dear.
There maybe a reason most humanity hates philosophy, and thinks philosophy is a waste of time.
Because it's best to live irrationally. Without thinking things through. That is how animals live. And we were once animals.
Unfortunately, our drive for wisdom, made us evolve to what we are, but at the same time, having never found it or justified, all our wisdom maybe a delusion.
I want to know sophia. I want to know beautiful wisdom. But maybe wisdom is not so beautiful. But I am driven by a passion for it.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Lots of great posters there. All of whom make a great deal more sense than you.
I really miss Kichi and ZB.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2018 at 6:42 pm by Mystic.)
(April 1, 2018 at 6:26 pm)LastPoet Wrote: If words hurt you...
You need to really have a hard time.
Words hurt, because, like programming a program wrong, we can come out with conclusions that hurt and cause problems. One mistake sometimes in a program causes people to die while they were hoping to make it to outer space.
Guided Reason without misguidance, we need to hold on to it, and if we don't look for God to provide that, who will we look to?
(April 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Lots of great posters there. All of whom make a great deal more sense than you.
I really miss Kichi and ZB.
Thanks for letting me know your assessment. 
(April 1, 2018 at 6:25 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (April 1, 2018 at 6:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: https://atheistforums.org/thread-15323.html
This thread, this thread, a lot was proven.
There is a post, that it was better to pretend for there to be value and delude humans that there is such a thing, than not create myth and let them think there is no such thing.
We hate the Shamans and Prophets of old, but they steered humans to believing in self-worth.
What if you realized there is no justifying value without God but that God was impossible to exist, what you would do?
I thought I was at that point in that thread. I wanted to believe so badly that value is possible in the Atheism paradigm, but I couldn't believe it.
Yet I thought God was impossible.
You want to see how emotionally traumatized I was, just read that thread.
Irrelevant! In "The Selfish Gene" Dawkins said much more meaningful things about human's purpose than that. He actually advocates for living our lives in opposition to evolutionary trends. Even if it means our extinction. Read "The Selfish Gene" for yourself MK! It will not burn!
There was little talk of Dawkin's. Give the thread a read.
(April 1, 2018 at 6:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Your inability to believe in the blisteringly obvious is a comment on your religious indoctrination, and nothing more.
Yeah... k bro. I am the one who has not thought things through 
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:47 pm
(April 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(April 1, 2018 at 6:25 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Irrelevant! In "The Selfish Gene" Dawkins said much more meaningful things about human's purpose than that. He actually advocates for living our lives in opposition to evolutionary trends. Even if it means our extinction. Read "The Selfish Gene" for yourself MK! It will not burn!
There was little talk of Dawkin's. Give the thread a read.
I read a lot. I am a people of many books. Get back with me if you have read "The Selfish Gene" .
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:48 pm
(April 1, 2018 at 6:47 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (April 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
There was little talk of Dawkin's. Give the thread a read.
I read a lot. I am a people of many books. Get back with me if you have read "The Selfish Gene" .
Bro, what you are stating is quite irrelevant to the conversation in that thread.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 6:55 pm
It is relevant! I have read the thread, I have read the book the OP references, I have read "The Selfish Gene". If you have not MK, you have no business commenting on my posts. Get thee to a library!
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