RE: Anyone here a Category 7?
August 21, 2018 at 11:25 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2018 at 11:26 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
So what level is Dorkins at?
Anyone here a Category 7?
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RE: Anyone here a Category 7?
August 21, 2018 at 11:25 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2018 at 11:26 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
So what level is Dorkins at?
I would also put myself at a 7, because almost all definitions of God include something supernatural, and that's just nonsense. A square circle.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead RE: Anyone here a Category 7?
August 21, 2018 at 1:16 pm
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2018 at 1:17 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
I'm generally in the camp that 1 and 7 are just nonsensical, or even dishonest, claims to make. I don't know how anyone would go about proving the assertion in #7. Even Dawkins says he's not a 7, just really close to a 7. If forced to choose a number I'd be a 6.
That being said, I think Dawkins' scale is unnecessary and not really helpful in most cases. It doesn't add much at all to a conversation and just muddies the waters even further when it comes to casual conversations/debates about god(s).
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
I’m a hard, stiff 6.
Like... hard. It can almost be confused with a 7, but it’s still a six. A six that lifts.
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
It's exactly as easy or as difficult as proving any other assertion.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
I'm a hard, fully erect 6.
7 for human myths, 6 for the possibility of something no one has thought of yet.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
In the past I've represented myself as a 7, but that depended on making certain things clear. When people speak of knowing something, they typically embrace the idea that it is known with absolute certainty. I liked Mathilda's point about the contextual nature of the meaning of "to know" but I would go even further and suggest that except in certain contexts, such as the question of God, the sense in which absolute certainty is required is never employed. Not in science. Not in everyday life. We don't even ultimately have a firm grasp on what even makes something knowledge. It's a very divisive philosophical issue. However, seeing that most people assume the sense of knowing with absolute certainty when discussing the existence of God, and I do hold that my beliefs could be in error, I incline toward a softer stance on the question if I'm not going to fully qualify my remarks as I have done here. Ultimately it's less a stance about our knowledge of God's non-existence as it is a concession to reasonable dialogue based on shared assumptions.
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