Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis

[Crossless2.0]

So we're back to 'copies of copies' corroborate the claims?


lol

[Bucky Ball]

There is no universally accepted non-Christian reference (statements by believers are not evidence) to an historical Jesus, (none) and many reasons to doubt his historicity. Comparing Caesar (who is a known secular human who is referenced in countless Roman civil documents, INCLUDING the works HE HIMSELF wrote, to a wandering preacher who is the object of faith, (never mentioned by Pontius Pilate, who Peter in Acts has to explain to the Jews who he was and what they did ... they didn't even know) is typical Christian dishonesty. The "passion" is made up. Never once in all of history, was the Sanhedrin called into session on Passover weekend.

There are no original documents of the NT.

[Drich]

[Bucky Ball]

bla bla bla

Whatever drugs you're on, dude, you should stop taking them.
AGAIN, put me on ignore. I have no plans to waste any time on your foolish rubbish.
You are an ignoramus. You have a 3rd Grade understanding of these matters.
Your garbage is not worth wasting even 1 second on.

Your conclusion about Pilate and Roman sources was so off the wall, it's just bizarre. I myself used a Roman source.
The distinction I made went over your head. You got nothing.
Nothing.

[TwoCultSurvivor]

Moronic?

Actually, you DID say Court of Law, and you grew up in Florida, where I currently live. It would be absurd to to think you were talking about a court system from a completely different country.
You're claiming I used a straw man. Nonsense. I used your actual argument.
you claim a court ruled he deserved execution because he claimed to be the son of God, but there is no evidence that there ever was such a court ruling, so YOU are the one employing circular reasoning, relying on a court ruling that never happened to prove the thing happened because a court ruling condemned him. That is the definition of circular reasoning. It is far from "moronic." It is definitive.

You cannot prove there WAS a trial of Christ. Therefore, you cannot draw conclusions from that trial. Otherwise, your reasoning is circular.

Pilate did not point blank ask Jesus anything because Jesus likely never appealed before Pilate. The only evidence he did comes from sources that claim Pilate did things the real Pilate, according to reliable sources, never would have done. Like release a murderer because it was Passover. He never did that. Not only was it not his custom; it was antithetical to his vicious philosophy.

So if you want to claim the gospels as evidence the gospels happened, then I get to claim Amazing Fantasy 10 as evidence that Amazing Fantasy 10 happened, and therefore Spider-Man is real!

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P.S.

No Spider-Man does NOT mean there is no New York, no Empire State Building, and no Twin Towers that were destroyed on 9/11.

It only means the fictional character who purportedly lived in NYC at the time those things existed... didn't.

[Minimalist]

first you claim I'm moving the goal posts, but I never assigned a ourt to judge Christ.

Your stupid fucking book did.

[GrandizerII]

[Abaddon_ire]

at least you are smart enough to know that not all light is generated from the sun. most of your peers can't fathom how light was created day one but the sun not till day 4... even if God didn't use a generator you still can understand how light can be made without the sun. good for you!

Where exactly is this other light generated?

[LastPoet]

God already had a mobile with a LED lantern. See how easy it is?

[vulcanlogician]