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Would They Die for a Lie?
#11
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 2:14 pm)Divinity Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yup.  Money.  Power.  Sex.

Four.  You forgot Hate.

Subsumed under ‘power’.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#12
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 1:50 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: LOL You are an idiot.

I'm not the one who can't back my claim when asked... So then what does that make you, if asked you can't back your claim???
I have never seen you engage in an honest discussion, so why should I bother? You talk out of your ass, routinely. Fuck you.
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#13
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 2:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 1:50 pm)Drich Wrote: I'm not the one who can't back my claim when asked... So then what does that make you, if asked you can't back your claim???
I have never seen you engage in an honest discussion, so why should I bother? You talk out of your ass, routinely. Fuck you.

To show yourself right. To show your peers I am everything you think me to be. To show your peers you are not afraid of the noise maker and that I am truly nothing. Because that is what people who know themselves to be smarter do to retards in your position of obvious superiority. And.. Because doing nothing says all the wrong things about you. Calling me names and running makes you peers doubt, they make them wonder about how smart you think you are they look at you as one needing protection from the big bad christian you become a burden and they will start PM-ing you to build you back up after taking too much crap from me. They will know the truth..

So for me.. it's win win. say something I get to tear you down. say nothing be seen as being intimidated by me and seek help from your support group. (one of your peers will say something bad about me in your stead)

So bring it Go-zerra, or maybe minnie will chime in for you
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#14
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
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Christianity is not based on morality (doing good or bad) but relationship directly with God.

That this doesn't scare you is understandable if you think your god is real, that it scares atheists like me should be understandable to you because it means we see you as operating as an amoral agent in a godless world, and that you may think you're exempt from following the moral norms of our society. (e.g. the catholic church)
A friend in the hole
 
"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." - Captain Picard

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#15
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 2:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I have never seen you engage in an honest discussion, so why should I bother? You talk out of your ass, routinely. Fuck you.

To show yourself right. To show your peers I am everything you think me to be. To show your peers you are not afraid of the noise maker and that I am truly nothing. Because that is what people who know themselves to be smarter do to retards in your position of obvious superiority. And.. Because doing nothing says all the wrong things about you. Calling me names and running makes you peers doubt, they make them wonder about how smart you think you are they look at you as one needing protection from the big bad christian you become a burden and they will start PM-ing you to build you back up after taking too much crap from me. They will know the truth..

So for me.. it's win win. say something I get to tear you down. say nothing be seen as being intimidated by me and seek help from your support group. (one of your peers will say something bad about me in your stead)

So bring it Go-zerra, or maybe minnie will chime in for you

Back in the bag with you.
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#16
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 5:03 pm)unsapien Wrote:
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Christianity is not based on morality (doing good or bad) but relationship directly with God.

That this doesn't scare you is understandable if you think your god is real, that it scares atheists like me should be understandable to you because it means we see you as operating as an amoral agent in a godless world, and that you may think you're exempt from following the moral norms of our society. (e.g. the catholic church)

Of course it scares you. which is why Clinton as apart of her campaign was/is so willing to repeal the 1 amendment,and is bent on "changing deeply held religious views and ideas." What both of you are intentionally over looking is to what end we are charged/what our mission statement is as a member of the church. We are tasked to two ends. One love God with all of our being. and 2 to love our neighbor as our selves. If we follow these commands how then can we be a threat even if we are not bound to your morals? The only thing we seek is to have the freedom to not live the life you choose to live. why does that bother you so much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj1T1gP4Q9M

(December 4, 2018 at 5:14 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm)Drich Wrote: To show yourself right. To show your peers I am everything you think me to be. To show your peers you are not afraid of the noise maker and that I am truly nothing. Because that is what people who know themselves to be smarter do to retards in your position of obvious superiority. And.. Because doing nothing says all the wrong things about you. Calling me names and running makes you peers doubt, they make them wonder about how smart you think you are they look at you as one needing protection from the big bad christian you become a burden and they will start PM-ing you to build you back up after taking too much crap from me. They will know the truth..

So for me.. it's win win. say something I get to tear you down. say nothing be seen as being intimidated by me and seek help from your support group. (one of your peers will say something bad about me in your stead)

So bring it Go-zerra, or maybe minnie will chime in for you

Back in the bag with you.

I wonder how many atheist ignore lists I'm on... do you know how many of you are currently or ever have been on my ignore list??? 0 I have never ignored any of you why? none of you are seen as a threat nor do any of you generate enough of an emotional response to have me try and avoid any contact with you. This is fun for me most of the time. I do not see any of you as threats or bad people I must avoid or I might loose my world view. How many of you can say the same about me? why do my words need to be censored while yours stay on screen?
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#17
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
Better.
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#18
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
If your interactions here, Drich, are an example of that second command..you're not going to lay anyone's misgivings about you and the rest of the faithful like you to rest. Your our pet slavery apologist, always railing against our societies norms and in favor of the slavers and the rapists and..generally, shitty people and the shitty gods who tell them to do shitty things......after all.

I see you bitching about how many folks you worry have you on ignore. Like a junkie, complaining about other people not giving him his fix.
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#19
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 5:32 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: If your interactions here, Drich, are an example of that second command..you're not going to lay anyone's misgivings about you and the rest of the faithful like you to rest.  Your our pet slavery apologist, after all.

I am treating you in the same way I am being treated no? actually no. I'm being treated far worse.

I am told I am shit my ideas are stupid and I simply ask for an explaination, I am told I do not deserve one as I am now also dishonest. I throw down a challenge a simple doubble dog dare,and you all loose your shit..

Mockingly* Drich you are not treating people the way they want to be treated... you called me 'gae' (no you called you gae, I just point out you did no think things through and even asked for permission to remind you you should not select year long screen names while stoned)

 So here's the thing sport..  the command is to treat people how I want them to treat me. 

Done.

I want to be treated open and honestly and for people like Jorgie and you to call me on my shit from time to time. So when I do this to you... like calling you on your bad decission of a screen name. Stop bitching and take your gae bologna medcine. otherwise you will go though life thinking stupid crap like this is cool and people respect you for it Hehe Because your 'real friends' will never tell you the emperor are not wearing any cloths.
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#20
RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 4, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 5:03 pm)unsapien Wrote: That this doesn't scare you is understandable if you think your god is real, that it scares atheists like me should be understandable to you because it means we see you as operating as an amoral agent in a godless world, and that you may think you're exempt from following the moral norms of our society. (e.g. the catholic church)

Of course it scares you. which is why Clinton as apart of her campaign was/is so willing to repeal the 1 amendment,and is bent on "changing deeply held religious views and ideas." What both of you are intentionally over looking is to what end we are charged/what our mission statement is as a member of the church. We are tasked to two ends. One love God with all of our being. and 2 to love our neighbor as our selves. If we follow these commands how then can we be a threat even if we are not bound to your morals? The only thing we seek is to have the freedom to not live the life you choose to live. why does that bother you so much?

What I think you fail to understand is that your "religious freedom" is a protection (basically a blasphemy law) that is afforded no other type of speech. "Economic" speech, "scientific" speech, "art" speech "engineering" speech, ad nauseum... they do not require special protection because they rise and fall on their own merit, in fact that is the way they grow and learn, and change, and add to our benefit as a society. 

And if it must be said, religions need more protection from each other then from secular society, they're like those bubble fight games...


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 where religions seem to mutually agree not to poke any real holes at each other, lest they deflate all of their arguments at once.

EDIT: Also your comment about Clinton wanting to repeal the 1st amendment sounds like total BS on the face of it.
A friend in the hole
 
"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." - Captain Picard

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