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Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 15, 2020 at 7:20 pm
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#172
RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 16, 2020 at 5:32 am
(February 15, 2020 at 1:41 am)Agnostico Wrote: Many governments now allow abortion right up until birth without any reason

Name one, citing relevant legislation.

You know your argument would go better if it had anything truthful you could base it on. But then again as your linked videos amply demonstrate, anti-abortionists wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on their arses.
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 16, 2020 at 9:13 pm (This post was last modified: February 16, 2020 at 9:24 pm by Agnostico.)
(February 16, 2020 at 5:32 am)Nomad Wrote: Name one, citing relevant legislation.

You know your argument would go better if it had anything truthful you could base it on.  But then again as your linked videos amply demonstrate, anti-abortionists wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on their arses.

This article is less than a year old. It has a table showing which american states have bans on partial birth abortion.
20 states prohibit partial birth abortion

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy...2asc%22%7D
(February 15, 2020 at 10:21 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(February 15, 2020 at 6:01 am)Agnostico Wrote: Please elaborate cos im not sure if ur referring to one of the videos or what

I was replying to your satatement "To me killing an unborn child is the same as killing a born child."

These are very very different things.

Fair enough I see your point.
Killing a 3 month old child is also different to killing a 6 month old child too

I guess what I meant is that killing an unborn child is effectively ending a human life

The question becomes when does a human life begin? Is it at birth, at conception, when a heartbeat can be heard or another stage of the pregnancy. 
I don't know. I just know that learning about abortions and watching them makes me feel like it's wrong
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 16, 2020 at 9:33 pm
Quote:Fair enough I see your point.
Killing a 3 month old child is also different to killing a 6 month old child too
Accept a fetus is not a child 

Quote:I guess what I meant is that killing an unborn child is effectively ending a human life
Yup and ?


Quote:The question becomes when does a human life begin? 

Actually this question doesn't matter at all 

Quote:Is it at birth, at conception, when a heartbeat can be heard or another stage of the pregnancy.
 Actually this question doesn't matter at all 

Quote:I don't know. I just know that learning about abortions and watching them makes me feel like it's wrong
Feels aren't aren't a reason
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 16, 2020 at 11:49 pm
(February 16, 2020 at 9:33 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: I guess what I meant is that killing an unborn child is effectively ending a human life
Yup and ?
You agree that it is ending a human life yet u promote it... 
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 17, 2020 at 12:27 am (This post was last modified: February 17, 2020 at 12:27 am by The Valkyrie.)
Nope.

It's a potential human life.

Until viability it's a cluster of cells.

The vast majority of abortions occur before viability and very few are carried out in the last trimesta.

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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 17, 2020 at 12:34 am (This post was last modified: February 17, 2020 at 12:43 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
(February 16, 2020 at 11:49 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(February 16, 2020 at 9:33 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: I guess what I meant is that killing an unborn child is effectively ending a human life
Yup and ?
You agree that it is ending a human life yet u promote it... 
The morals of the atheist revealed
Yes i agree it's ending a human life which is irrelevant or at he very least secondary .

And i wasn't revealed because i never hide it . Nor does i have anything to do with atheism.

Also note your complete lack of an actual objection to my statement .Just more feels .
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 17, 2020 at 2:31 am
(February 17, 2020 at 12:27 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: It's a potential human life.

Until viability it's a cluster of cells.

The vast majority of abortions occur before viability and very few are carried out in the last trimesta.

Fair enough. I don't agree that it's just a cluster of cells before viability but I see what your saying

A good argument can be made for making viability the cut off point of abortion
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 17, 2020 at 8:12 am
Banning abortion is effectively ending two human lives.
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#180
RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 17, 2020 at 9:14 am
(February 16, 2020 at 9:13 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(February 16, 2020 at 5:32 am)Nomad Wrote: Name one, citing relevant legislation.

You know your argument would go better if it had anything truthful you could base it on.  But then again as your linked videos amply demonstrate, anti-abortionists wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on their arses.

This article is less than a year old. It has a table showing which american states have bans on partial birth abortion.
20 states prohibit partial birth abortion

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy...2asc%22%7D
(February 15, 2020 at 10:21 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I was replying to your satatement "To me killing an unborn child is the same as killing a born child."

These are very very different things.

Fair enough I see your point.
Killing a 3 month old child is also different to killing a 6 month old child too

I guess what I meant is that killing an unborn child is effectively ending a human life

The question becomes when does a human life begin? Is it at birth, at conception, when a heartbeat can be heard or another stage of the pregnancy. 
I don't know. I just know that learning about abortions and watching them makes me feel like it's wrong


So you're saying the propaganda videos had the desired effect of manipulating your emotions?
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