Not just catholics!

[arewethereyet]

@Drich
Rape, sexual assault of minors, and coprophagy... bet your gawd is thrilled to have you as a spokesperson.

[Deesse23]

What a vile piece of shit you are. If thats what religion makes out of people i am glad not to be religious and hope never to be.

what a douche..

You: Unga bunga (caveman sounds) me no like what drich say, but me not know how to say it.. Me know Him religionous, so me make him look bad by showing me better than relionous..

Hey retard.. what religion do you think it is I am quoting? then what makes you think I am religious? or do you not understand the term as it is properly used and defined?

nothing I said has any religious implication to it.

It is simply a matter of perspective.

Do you really think im concerned about what a piece of shit like you thinks about me? If so, then you are a stupid piece of shit.
Looking from anothier perspective.....you are still a piece of shit.

[pocaracas]

Church of England child sex abuse allegations 'marked by secrecy'

The Church of England's response to child sex abuse allegations was "marked by secrecy", a report has found.
Former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord George Carey has been criticised for supporting former Bishop Peter Ball.
The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) said Ball "was able to sexually abuse vulnerable teenagers and young men for decades".

The IICSA described the "appalling sexual abuse against children" in the Diocese of Chichester, with 18 members of the clergy convicted of offences during a 50-year period.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48214957



Funny how an "all seeing, all knowing, loving god" didn't bother to stop any of it!

what if you lived in a world where the worst thing in the world that can happen is when someone pee'd on you? or if you lived in a place where the worst thing in the world is someone pooped and smashed it in your face? No murder rape not possible we where pretty well indestructible, but piss was still piss and poop was still poop.

It would then stand to reason these personal assaults would become our rape and murder.. think of how much we would blow this all up to where the psycological damage of having poop jamed in your face and or mouth could mentally change you forever. to the point where because this is the worst thing that could happen it would require the same type of criminal punishment why? because again it is the biggest humiliation we being could endure!

Now lets say preist where pooping and forcing these same kids to eat it. Would your response be the same?

 yes of course it would because you do not have a point of reference that depicts anything worse.

Look I get it.. I was "manhandled by several different people as a young boy. family friends of family strangers ina park.. Apparently a was a damn hot little bastard that man woman and teen found very attractive. it is a bad thing and I was mad for a long time. but hear me out. because you do not know of anything worse this triffle becomes the ultimate crime. and because it is a big deal to us... we want it to be a big deal to god. Just like if poop from another man is forced into your mouth.. the same status the same level of violation is what you would want to apply to mouth pooping if there was no rape.

In truth, on God's level "we" are indestructible. our souls our tue selfs can not be harmed only emotionally violated which from experience is as bad as you want it to be. just like if I where to make you eat poop. in a similar way Rape is bad like forcing poop into someone is bad, but it is not the end of the friggin world. 

In truth if there was no rape humanity would have died of as a bunch of inbred blue blooded monkeys long time ago. Rape is the reason we all don't belong to a hand full of inbred clans. Yes rape is bad M'kay Rape is bad.. but so is pooping in someone's mouth 

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but at the same time do you demand God move heaven and earth so none of us will ever know what another man's turd will taste like?


It's like captain marvel leaving after they killed thanos the first time and left the remaining avengers to figure out earth bid-ness on their own. (she left because there was no real threat to humanity left) Rape is monkey/humanity bid-ness. meaning it may be world ending to the monkey being drilled in the can... but in truth we aren't monkeys, we are not this flesh, and to only seek protection to the flesh is self defeating when our eternal being our indstructible rape proof souls are being condemned for the sake of our monkey powered frames.

Drich, my boy, that is not the issue.
And these idiots on here have failed to tell you the real issue, too, so shame on you guys.

The issue is that the priesthood, regardless of the actual existence of any god, the priests claim to be the givers of morality.
Regardless of what despicable acts happen in the rest of society, the priesthood should follow the morality which they preach. They should be the example to follow. The populous implicitly trusts them because of this.

But, when that trust is breached, like what happens with news of this kind, when the moral pedestal where they should stand is made of nothing but air, then one must ask what is the purpose of the priesthood?
Might as well do away with them, but that would put the religion on a direct path to oblivion. People would believe in whatever they wanted and there would be no authority to guide them, leading to dilution and eventual relegation to a myth status.
To avoid that, should the clergy impose more self checks? How?
If we're talking church of England, the queen has ultimate authority, so she should come out and do something about it. For the Catholic church, it's the pope's job.
The apparent apathy from these leaders suggests that they are unable to impose upon all of their priests (no exceptions) the morality handed down from Aquinas and the great thinkers of old.

Do note that I mentioned nothing about god intervening, here. It's a human problem. But not a problem of social standards... If anything, social standards have been steadily increasing. The problem, I reiterate, is that those people who claim and thus should be the moral standards in society are displaying behaviours that go against those standards.

[GUBU]

Example let say a "very mature" 10 year old boy is 'raped/molested' first sexual experience with a 17 year old female baby sitter. by every measure of the law this is rape, but the boy was happy and the baby sitter was cool with it too. So should the girl get a 10 year prison sentence and be labeled a sex offender/predator for a child under the age of 12?

So advocating pedophilia then and no there are no "very mature 10 year olds "  and if he enjoyed it it's only because he doesn't understand that he's just been violated sexually . The fact Derpch thinks this is any kind of moral dilemma is shameful .

You know, in my job, I've actually seen reports on shit like what Dripshit just described. And I can tell you right here and now that there is no way in hell where what Dripshit said doesn't constitute rape. Now the circumstances of the girl would have to be taken into account before passing judgement (maybe she too was raped herself, maybe she was raised by a religious bastard like Dripshit and her morality warped, maybe she's not capable of making an informed adult decision herself), but what she did in the hypothetical is a crime.

[Amarok]

what a douche..

Yes you are 

You: Unga bunga (caveman sounds) me no like what drich say, but me not know how to say it.. Me know Him religionous, so me make him look bad by showing me better than relionous..

Nah this is what you sound like by default and yes he didn't like it no mentally adjusted person would like it

Hey retard.. what religion do you think it is I am quoting? then what makes you think I am religious? or do you not understand the term as it is properly used and defined?

The fact you are religious 

nothing I said has any religious implication to it.

Everything you say on morality does 

It is simply a matter of perspective.

No it isn't

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in a similar way Rape is bad like forcing poop into someone is bad, but it is not the end of the friggin world. 

Comparing rape to pooping - For the person suffering trauma of rape it might as well be the end of the world you detestable POS

In truth if there was no rape humanity would have died of as a bunch of inbred blue blooded monkeys long time ago. Rape is the reason we all don't belong to a hand full of inbred clans. Yes rape is bad M'kay Rape is bad.. but so is pooping in someone's mouth 

That doesn't follow nor is it even true ,And again trivializing rape by comparing it something not at all like . You are garbage.

[WolfsChild]

Drich. He is the reincarnation of Job (didI get ghe character right?), had all the shit on the world throwed at him. Got AIDS, Cancer etc, now has been molested.

There is nothing that hasn't afflicted him

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Try to do a read on his threads. You might find thst this latest, isn't even the worst. Search his threads on the profile. If you are willing to feel brain pain, OFC. Heh, look for "spare the rod, spoil the child" i hope he never fathers children.

Ive shared this several times where have you been?

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Again morons I am not condoning rape, it is not "fun". I am simply questioning it's position on the pop morality scale giving how dependant human survival as a species depended on rape to ensure bio diversity in the genepool. I honestly think the only reason you all see it so badly is because it is not fun for both people. if it where then it would be dismissed.

Example let say a "very mature" 10 year old boy is 'raped/molested' first sexual experience with a 17 year old female baby sitter. by every measure of the law this is rape, but the boy was happy and the baby sitter was cool with it too. So should the girl get a 10 year prison sentence and be labeled a sex offender/predator for a child under the age of 12?

If 1/2 of you where honest 1/2 of you would say no. why? because rape/child molesting is not the issue, if it where then all form of sexually deviant behavior that could technically be defined as rape should get the max penalty.

If you said No you are not concerned with rape but concerned on how one 'feels' about sex with a given person.

Next scenario, lets say an older married couple have sex once or twice a week and it's" goodie bag night" but the wife is just not into it tonight for whatever reason. she explains this to her husband but he has already "taken the blue pill and wants to see how far the rabbit hole goes." ( a matrix quote nasto) so her 'feelings or want to abstain for a night go unheard and dude on his 'blue pill powers' drills wifie in the can for an hour. Or better yet let's say wifie is a light touch and she is done in 5 mins, and wants out... but dude on the blue pill is a 1 or 2 hour guy. Again she's done, and wants out but has to be hammered for another hour and 55 mins before the blue pill runs out and he is done.

Now according to your screw up pop morality which scenario is worse? two kids having consentual sex or a married couple having "taking one for the team sex?" Remember the husband and wife is not technically rape but at the same time the wife is having sex she does not really want twice a week till he gives out. and the kids no matter how much they want it, it is technically rape.

Having forced sex is rape no matter if your married or not the wife can call the police and get him done for rape it will stand as that by law it is rape

[Drich]

hey smokey.. what do you think the world population would be if there was no war no dease? no unnatural but only 100 year old deaths?

Then tell me how many thousands of years ago this planet resources would be 100% depleted and we a virus like species made this planet look like the surface of mars as we cnsumed everything the planet could offer an yet 100 trillion of us die of starvation...

I bet God would just as soon have you thank him for war and disease so you hippy no vaccine useing douche bags don't have to decide which one of your kids you will eat first and which of the kids gets to have soup made from the bones of the last one you had to kill and eat and which ones won't get any and will be next.

Do you people even think before you speak? do any of you look beyond tomorrow?

Yes 50 to 100 million died this pat century in wars.. that said we are still 7 billion and expanding on a finite planet with finite resources.

If you where smart you's better pray for a war or a thanos or something before we reach a point where the planet can not recover. as there is a tipping point where we consume so much what is left will not be enough to replenish what we have taken and that part of the planet will simply be lost for ever. Example great barrier reef is past the point of recovery it is said much of it is already dead.

Um not the point. You claim that a sky hero is in control, not me.

define control. I said God is alpha and omega meaning he does what he wants when he wants... this could mean he has planed out every detail or it could simply mean he is put things in motion and simply knows how every detail will work out and makes minor adjustments from time to time. The latter seems to be more inline with his MO.

Seems cruel to create disease and disaster and crime and war if you tell your fans you are their body guard.

how many times do I have to say God is not our body gaurd? that is something you believe God to be when in fact the opposite is said in the bible. the bible says if the son was not spared neither shall his followers expect to be spared.

I actually think the world should produce less children, not more. But I certainly would not use violence and disease and war and crime as a manor of family planning if I were all powerful.

how stupid is that? why would you an eternal being be concerned with how long people live in the pre-test era? once someone shown themselves to be worthy of heaven and eternal life hen why force them to live in literal purgatory where satan has the most power and influence? Or as a supreme being have you forgotten that what you set this life up to be? a proving grounds so that people would know who they are and can go on to eternal rest or destruction without reservation or doubt. If your perspective is this life is but a vapor here one moment and gone the next then why fight to make sure the vapor last any longer than it normally would?

But if you are going to claim abortion is murder, funny that, but stillborns miscarriages outnumber abortions worldwide, which would make your God the biggest abortion provider.

.... non sequitur.
One is a failure of development the other is the intentional termination of a developing baby. Do you understand the intentional unsanctioned death is what makes abortion murder?

So your sky hero cant find  less violent way to get his message across? 

History moron... what change of course has man ever embraced that did not come in the way of war? Everything we are everything we have is the product of war. We did not start out this way as in the garen everything was provided. yet we chose everything to be a battle rather than to live in paradise.

Humans are an invasive species, and we are at a critical mass.

that is my point I made dumb ass.

But that is not because humans are property, toys, props or poker chips of fictional characters. we are at our current population because we fuck and produce offspring.

now just keep the hamster running a little while long moron and ask yourself what is the natural yin to the yang of over population in any species?

Famine war disease. Your the "evolution supporter." where is you spirit for war? where is your cry for disease? where or how doyou plan on seeking balance if everyone had as many kids as they want and lives to be 100?

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what if you lived in a world where the worst thing in the world that can happen is when someone pee'd on you? or if you lived in a place where the worst thing in the world is someone pooped and smashed it in your face? No murder rape not possible we where pretty well indestructible, but piss was still piss and poop was still poop.

It would then stand to reason these personal assaults would become our rape and murder.. think of how much we would blow this all up to where the psycological damage of having poop jamed in your face and or mouth could mentally change you forever. to the point where because this is the worst thing that could happen it would require the same type of criminal punishment why? because again it is the biggest humiliation we being could endure!

Now lets say preist where pooping and forcing these same kids to eat it. Would your response be the same?

 yes of course it would because you do not have a point of reference that depicts anything worse.

Look I get it.. I was "manhandled by several different people as a young boy. family friends of family strangers ina park.. Apparently a was a damn hot little bastard that man woman and teen found very attractive. it is a bad thing and I was mad for a long time. but hear me out. because you do not know of anything worse this triffle becomes the ultimate crime. and because it is a big deal to us... we want it to be a big deal to god. Just like if poop from another man is forced into your mouth.. the same status the same level of violation is what you would want to apply to mouth pooping if there was no rape.

In truth, on God's level "we" are indestructible. our souls our tue selfs can not be harmed only emotionally violated which from experience is as bad as you want it to be. just like if I where to make you eat poop. in a similar way Rape is bad like forcing poop into someone is bad, but it is not the end of the friggin world. 

In truth if there was no rape humanity would have died of as a bunch of inbred blue blooded monkeys long time ago. Rape is the reason we all don't belong to a hand full of inbred clans. Yes rape is bad M'kay Rape is bad.. but so is pooping in someone's mouth 

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but at the same time do you demand God move heaven and earth so none of us will ever know what another man's turd will taste like?


It's like captain marvel leaving after they killed thanos the first time and left the remaining avengers to figure out earth bid-ness on their own. (she left because there was no real threat to humanity left) Rape is monkey/humanity bid-ness. meaning it may be world ending to the monkey being drilled in the can... but in truth we aren't monkeys, we are not this flesh, and to only seek protection to the flesh is self defeating when our eternal being our indstructible rape proof souls are being condemned for the sake of our monkey powered frames.

Drich, my boy, that is not the issue.
And these idiots on here have failed to tell you the real issue, too, so shame on you guys.

The issue is that the priesthood, regardless of the actual existence of any god, the priests claim to be the givers of morality.
Regardless of what despicable acts happen in the rest of society, the priesthood should follow the morality which they preach. They should be the example to follow. The populous implicitly trusts them because of this.

But, when that trust is breached, like what happens with news of this kind, when the moral pedestal where they should stand is made of nothing but air, then one must ask what is the purpose of the priesthood?
Might as well do away with them, but that would put the religion on a direct path to oblivion. People would believe in whatever they wanted and there would be no authority to guide them, leading to dilution and eventual relegation to a myth status.
To avoid that, should the clergy impose more self checks? How?
If we're talking church of England, the queen has ultimate authority, so she should come out and do something about it. For the Catholic church, it's the pope's job.
The apparent apathy from these leaders suggests that they are unable to impose upon all of their priests (no exceptions) the morality handed down from Aquinas and the great thinkers of old.

Do note that I mentioned nothing about god intervening, here. It's a human problem. But not a problem of social standards... If anything, social standards have been steadily increasing. The problem, I reiterate, is that those people who claim and thus should be the moral standards in society are displaying behaviours that go against those standards.

Here's the thing.. if "religious people" would just read their F-ing bibles they would see a great contradiction between what the priests say about priesthood what God has to say about it. In that God in the book of Acts chapter 2 was poured out on all the people/believers and to this day we have direct access to God. Through Christ we all have the opportunity to be directly connected to God meaning we do not need priests nor prophets.

We do need guidance and direction but not in the way or the authority of a preist, but a minister or pastor/teacher even then the Holy Spirit fills most of that role (1john chapter 2:27 forward.

As far as social standard go nothing has changed. example all "slavery" is made to look like chattel slavery and thus made illegal..however the only thing changed is the job title the work and no to low pay happens now not only in the fields but in mines in ship breaking yard in leather factories in the collection of raw elements like sulfur in factories that make our cloths that make our phones and other electronics and we pretend that just because these people are not chattel slaves that they are not slaves at all. When in fact there are nets around the top floors of some of these factories because the people who work there feel so trapped they try and kill themselves rather than quit.. as some can not quit. 

We say homosexuals and transgender people have more rights but at the expense of taking what was considered a right (the santity of marriage one if not the holiest religious right, stripped it of all meaning and forced a country to adopt this religious right for those who typically hate or at the very least have nothing to do with religion. One group of people rights have been taken, their religious beliefs castrated. and forced to accept what in thier religion is wrong. understand this statment is not about what you personally think here in this specific subject, but the fact"we" have not gotten better at anything. what is going on here is no different when Christians moved in to the west and forced american indians into christianity. When the pop culture was christian supported it did many evils in the name of christianity. Howevernow that the pop culture has adopted this version of secularism it is finding reason to treat christian with the same malice and content the pop cultrue treated the native americans. again nothing has change pop culture find it's self a reason based in it's own righteousness each and every time. The religion or lack of one is just an excuse for pop culture to demand people to change.

The evil you all point out in christianity the dark ages the crusades the spanish inquisition all of it are perfect examples of pop culture using religion to force it's will and self righteousness. this new godless way of doing things is the same evil of pop culture now just under the banner of unashamed self righteousness rather than as before hiding behind God.
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You are wrong. I simply do not judge behavior with popular moral standards.

I can identify and adhere to the law I can identify what soceity deems as right and wrong, but I can also see these right and wrong judgements are based on a sliding scale in most cases. meaning I do not always share what is right and what s wrong simply because it is the popular standard. My standard come from a standard that does not change. it is not the rule from which one ascribes to be an OT Jew but from a place of love/Agape' Love for God and love for my neighbor in the same proportion as I have for myself. meaning my own instinctual self preservational desires regulate and extend my efforts to my neighbors on par with all that I would do for my self. 

This far exceeds any trivial en masse decision/morality of what is right and what is wrong in this moment. my love for my neighbor will happily see me to break any moral code to secure for them anything I see myself in need of. like wise service to my God is not bound by such trivial demands that change fast than political correctness.

Big picture sport not what mouth breathers demand is fair and or equitable for the moment. What if good for the species what is good for the indivisual even if right now they are in pain.

Don't limit yourself by what pop culture define as moral as it is most often wrong.

Exactly, your word salad basically confirms what I said "you have created your own morality and use your interpretation of an ancient book,"

not mine smart guy.. meaning I created nothing on my own and I do not stand alone. in fact it is you snow flakes who have branched off into a different direction when it comes to morality. so maybe, by your small and limited perspective I could see how you could allow yourself to think that I am the one who has gone astray, because you surround yourself with like minded thinkers... however a snow balls worth of snow flakes does not a worldmake.

example who's presidential candidate got elected?wasit the snowflake candidate?

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Example let say a "very mature" 10 year old boy is 'raped/molested' first sexual experience with a 17 year old female baby sitter. by every measure of the law this is rape, but the boy was happy and the baby sitter was cool with it too. So should the girl get a 10 year prison sentence and be labeled a sex offender/predator for a child under the age of 12?

So advocating pedophilia then and no there are no "very mature 10 year olds "  and if he enjoyed it it's only because he doesn't understand that he's just been violated sexually . The fact Derpch thinks this is any kind of moral dilemma is shameful .

what a twisted mind you all have.

I have noticed ALL of you gravitate to the sin you seem to be most interested in.

NONE of you will answer the question as I worded it as being a two part representing 2 extremes..

You guys all only want to twist the 1st scenario or you want to twist the second.

None of you will answer the question I asked. why is that?

Oh, that's right with simple minds in pop morality if you can make me evil or at least 'immoral' then you can disregard me without having to think. If that is what you need to do then I guess to each their own.

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I don't need you lecturing me on the "moral high ground" when the head character of your book kills off all the Egyptian firstborn, and commits genocide in a flood.

hey stupid... the lecture is not about high moral ground! now what? will you go back and try and find the subject of the topic or will you just run at the mouth and try and save face?

[Drich]

what a douche..

You: Unga bunga (caveman sounds) me no like what drich say, but me not know how to say it.. Me know Him religionous, so me make him look bad by showing me better than relionous..

Hey retard.. what religion do you think it is I am quoting? then what makes you think I am religious? or do you not understand the term as it is properly used and defined?

nothing I said has any religious implication to it.

It is simply a matter of perspective.

Do you really think im concerned about what a piece of shit like you thinks about me? If so, then you are a stupid piece of shit.
Looking from anothier perspective.....you are still a piece of shit.

piece of shit must like be the penultimate insult at the zoo.
How about this hot rod.. how about rather than just being offended and start name calling everytime you get verbally smacked for falling a sleep at the intellectual wheel, how about trying to leave a topical Or if you are confused or don't know what I am talking about ASK A QUESTION post once in a while. how about not bailing on a topic just because the subject gets too deep for once. how about put yourself in danger of seeing a different perspective once in a while. I am far more forgiving and will answer any and all questions happily explain things if you just ask.. but if you want to have a word smack down I'm good with that too.

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So advocating pedophilia then and no there are no "very mature 10 year olds "  and if he enjoyed it it's only because he doesn't understand that he's just been violated sexually . The fact Derpch thinks this is any kind of moral dilemma is shameful .

You know, in my job, I've actually seen reports on shit like what Dripshit just described.  And I can tell you right here and now that there is no way in hell where what Dripshit said doesn't constitute rape.  Now the circumstances of the girl would have to be taken into account before passing judgement (maybe she too was raped herself, maybe she was raised by a religious bastard like Dripshit and her morality warped, maybe she's not capable of making an informed adult decision herself), but what she did in the hypothetical is a crime.

And what about the husband and wife team? is he guilty of rape?

Why do you guys only answer one or the other and never both?

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Ive shared this several times where have you been?

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Again morons I am not condoning rape, it is not "fun". I am simply questioning it's position on the pop morality scale giving how dependant human survival as a species depended on rape to ensure bio diversity in the genepool. I honestly think the only reason you all see it so badly is because it is not fun for both people. if it where then it would be dismissed.

Example let say a "very mature" 10 year old boy is 'raped/molested' first sexual experience with a 17 year old female baby sitter. by every measure of the law this is rape, but the boy was happy and the baby sitter was cool with it too. So should the girl get a 10 year prison sentence and be labeled a sex offender/predator for a child under the age of 12?

If 1/2 of you where honest 1/2 of you would say no. why? because rape/child molesting is not the issue, if it where then all form of sexually deviant behavior that could technically be defined as rape should get the max penalty.

If you said No you are not concerned with rape but concerned on how one 'feels' about sex with a given person.

Next scenario, lets say an older married couple have sex once or twice a week and it's" goodie bag night" but the wife is just not into it tonight for whatever reason. she explains this to her husband but he has already "taken the blue pill and wants to see how far the rabbit hole goes." ( a matrix quote nasto) so her 'feelings or want to abstain for a night go unheard and dude on his 'blue pill powers' drills wifie in the can for an hour. Or better yet let's say wifie is a light touch and she is done in 5 mins, and wants out... but dude on the blue pill is a 1 or 2 hour guy. Again she's done, and wants out but has to be hammered for another hour and 55 mins before the blue pill runs out and he is done.

Now according to your screw up pop morality which scenario is worse? two kids having consentual sex or a married couple having "taking one for the team sex?" Remember the husband and wife is not technically rape but at the same time the wife is having sex she does not really want twice a week till he gives out. and the kids no matter how much they want it, it is technically rape.

Having forced sex is rape no matter if your married or not the wife can call the police and get him done for rape it will stand as that by law it is rape

ok... care to answer the other half of the scenario? two kids having consesentual sex is this not also rape? The law says it is, what says your pop moral standard?

[The Grand Nudger]

You're so close, Drich, to realizing that everything about religion and religious institutions is "pop culture".

[LastPoet]

No one can backpedal like drich.

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And two kids don't consent to have sex. They will probably just embarace themselves with what they try to do.