Please Justify This Police Action For Me

[Ranjr]

Good thing kids always do what they're told.

[The Grand Nudger]

For the cops inevitable defense of their own conduct, however half hearted and full of caveats it's presented, they simply have to insist that it means something. It simply has to be true that the parents are somehow culpable for whatever amount of responsibility would be required to prevent them from being buried under a prison, like a regular citizen would, had they done the same.

[arewethereyet]

A responsible parent teaches a kid -

Don't feed the bears;
Don't tease the rattlesnake;
And don't piss off cops..

Actually I used this list for my girls:

Don't get pregnant
Do well in school
Don't make me have to deal the cops

Son got a similar list:
Don't get anyone pregnant
Do well in school
Don't make me have to deal with the cops

At no time did I think I had to coach my kids (at the age of nine) on what not to do if handcuffed by a flock of police officers.

[The Grand Nudger]

I think she did pretty well for a nine year old in stranger danger. She asked to see a parent, that's pretty fucking critical when cops deal with kids. I tell mine to take a picture of any adult who approaches them in any situation and send it to us.

[Irreligious Atheist]

I don't believe you argued that we think it's ok to pepper spray a 9 year old, and I respect that from you. Some others are acting like we supported the pepper spraying though, and that's dishonest.

Not so much supporting it as trying to find a way to excuse it. In other words, no one is claiming you’re saying, ‘The cops pepper sprayed a nine year old girl...HOORAY!’ It’s more that you’re saying, ‘It’s awful what happened to that girl, but...’

There is no ‘but’. The cops always had to option to not pepper spray her. They went another way.

Boru

Thank you for that. I beg to differ though that I was trying to excuse it. When these police brutality stories come up in the news, the first thing I do is check out the video if there is one, and look at all of the surrounding facts to see if it can be excused, or so I have more of an understanding of the picture of what happened. If the facts are not all known, I try to withhold judgment until more information comes in. I call that being intellectually honest and looking at the facts before I let bias take over and determine my opinion on the matter.

I don't think she should have been sprayed for being fat, full stop. I don't hate fat people. I actually have an eating disorder myself and wish my parents would have tried harder to correct it. You said she was 60 lbs (honest mistake) and I chimed in and corrected that. I'm sorry, but I don't see how it's ever wrong to correct incorrect information. Was it wrong for people to correct false information in that entitled white Karen tackling a black teen thread? Did pointing out that she's actually Vietnamese and Puerto Rican excuse what she did, or cover for what other white women have done in the past? If someone made a claim that police cuffed a 5 foot 2 12 year old, and I corrected them and said, wait, this 12 year old is actually 6 foot 4, does that mean I think that they deserve to be brutalised or that I'm covering for the police? I don't think so. I'm just trying to get the facts straight.

When I brought up the potential for hypothermia, it's because I was simply trying to understand the police's mindset.  was trying to understand why the police didn't simply give the girl more time to calm down and let her be. I was not trying to excuse their actions. I was simply trying to work out in my own head what their mindset might have been so I could try to make more sense of the situation. Is the concern over hypothermia a good reason to not sit around for an hour and wait for her to calm down? Sure. Is the concern over hypothermia a good reason to mace her? Hell no.

Is "All cops are bastards. End of discussion." the only response we can have in a thread like this? Not every post that slightly differs from that is covering for the cops or sending out a dog whistle because secretly we hate 'the blacks'.

[The Grand Nudger]

If you intentionally go out looking to see whether something can be excused, that increases the likelihood of you finding some excuse - and here we are. Calves the size of cantelopes. Fragile cop ribs. Bad Mom. Nutritionists. Prizefighters. Antifa. BLM. Milky white skin.

Dispute over a car, no arrest, no charges, one nine year old maced and held.

[Rev. Rye]

A responsible parent teaches a kid -

Don't feed the bears;
Don't tease the rattlesnake;
And don't piss off cops..

Because, of course, the police are just forces of nature that can’t be reasonably expected to think beyond instinct, right?

[The Grand Nudger]

Gravity. It's the law that states a cops boot will, not might, land on your neck.

[onlinebiker]

A responsible parent teaches a kid -

Don't feed the bears;
Don't tease the rattlesnake;
And don't piss off cops..

Because, of course, the police are just forces of nature that cian’t be reasonably expected to think beyond instinct, right?

You go right ahead and ignore reality....

Next time you get confronted by a LEO - go ahead and tell him in a loud voice that he can go fuck himself - you don't have to put up with his bullshit...


Please....

And make sure someone gets it on video so we can all enjoy it.....

[The Grand Nudger]

That's just the way it is...some things will never change. The thing to do, is clearly explain to our children that this is the way things are. That cops will beat the living shit out of you.

Correct? Huddle around heathens, daddys gonna tell you the story of the cops, who carry sticks to hit you with and guns to shoot you with. Yaaaaaay cops!

I have to ask...is this how you were raised....? That might explain an awful fucking lot.