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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 9:56 am
(August 31, 2021 at 9:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Whether or not some nutter or community of nutters believes that cloud fairies push rain where it's needed isn't in dispute. We know that there are nutters who believe that - there's at least one in this thread.
Do you think it's true..not of human experience or within human experience, but in mere reality, that cloud fairies push rain where needed? Do you think that this is a scientific miracle in the quran which proves that every other claim made in that magic book is true? This is a softball question, and it's impressive that winter could fail so spectacularly, but it would be inexplicable to see someone who hasn't been so thorughly hobbled by islam cosign such a ridiculous claim in any way. There's a whole industry involved in shitting in a guy like winters skull, he's a product of that. What would your excuse be, if you insist on being a plus one to this idiocy? I'm not saying cloud fairies push clouds. All I'm saying is, I don't have all the facts. How would I know for sure, that fairies don't push clouds? I am essentially arguing for a reality that is not my own, but then again, it would be nice if someone argued for my reality, so that's why I'm doing this.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 10:19 am
(August 31, 2021 at 9:56 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 9:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Whether or not some nutter or community of nutters believes that cloud fairies push rain where it's needed isn't in dispute. We know that there are nutters who believe that - there's at least one in this thread.
Do you think it's true..not of human experience or within human experience, but in mere reality, that cloud fairies push rain where needed? Do you think that this is a scientific miracle in the quran which proves that every other claim made in that magic book is true? This is a softball question, and it's impressive that winter could fail so spectacularly, but it would be inexplicable to see someone who hasn't been so thorughly hobbled by islam cosign such a ridiculous claim in any way. There's a whole industry involved in shitting in a guy like winters skull, he's a product of that. What would your excuse be, if you insist on being a plus one to this idiocy? I'm not saying cloud fairies push clouds. All I'm saying is, I don't have all the facts. How would I know for sure, that fairies don't push clouds? I am essentially arguing for a reality that is not my own, but then again, it would be nice if someone argued for my reality, so that's why I'm doing this.
We've become quite aware that you have your own reality.
The longer you are around the more you sound like someone who is not in touch with any other reality.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 10:35 am
(August 31, 2021 at 10:19 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 9:56 am)Ahriman Wrote: I'm not saying cloud fairies push clouds. All I'm saying is, I don't have all the facts. How would I know for sure, that fairies don't push clouds? I am essentially arguing for a reality that is not my own, but then again, it would be nice if someone argued for my reality, so that's why I'm doing this.
We've become quite aware that you have your own reality.
The longer you are around the more you sound like someone who is not in touch with any other reality. Well yeah, I suppose that's true. I keep my reality well-maintained. I wouldn't expect everyone to understand where I'm coming from.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 10:40 am
(August 31, 2021 at 10:35 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 10:19 am)arewethereyet Wrote: We've become quite aware that you have your own reality.
The longer you are around the more you sound like someone who is not in touch with any other reality. Well yeah, I suppose that's true. I keep my reality well-maintained. I wouldn't expect everyone to understand where I'm coming from.
Apparently not based on third party perspective/observation.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 10:56 am
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(August 31, 2021 at 10:40 am)brewer Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 10:35 am)Ahriman Wrote: Well yeah, I suppose that's true. I keep my reality well-maintained. I wouldn't expect everyone to understand where I'm coming from.
Apparently not based on third party perspective/observation. Yeah, so what? I think for myself.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 11:04 am
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(August 31, 2021 at 10:56 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 10:40 am)brewer Wrote: Apparently not based on third party perspective/observation. Yeah, so what? I think for myself.
OK by me but do us and society a favor, keep them to yourself. You seem to be the only one that thinks your thoughts are worth while or beneficial.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 11:14 am
(August 31, 2021 at 11:04 am)brewer Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 10:56 am)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah, so what? I think for myself.
OK by me but do us and society a favor, keep them to yourself. You seem to be the only one that thinks your thoughts are worth while or beneficial. And you think your thoughts are worthwhile/beneficial? Why?
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 12:21 pm
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(August 31, 2021 at 9:56 am)Ahriman Wrote: I am essentially arguing for a reality that is not my own, but then again, it would be nice if someone argued for my reality, so that's why I'm doing this. It's unclear how claiming you don't know, and don't know how to know, something..... is an argument for anything. However, we've already granted that as many private realities as human beings exist, and seeing as how the question has nothing to do with private realities, it also has nothing to do with whether it would be nice if anyone argued for your own private reality.
Winter isn't making a claim on anyone's private reality- yours, mine or his- but that in mere reality there are cloud fairies that drive rain, and additionally, that the truth of this assertion amounts to a scientific miracle which establishes that every other claim made in the quran is true.
Do you believe that this purported fact of cloud fairies is established as a fact, and do you believe that if it were established as a fact, the additional proposition - that all other claims made in the quran are also, then, demonstrated to be true?
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 12:24 pm
(August 31, 2021 at 11:14 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 31, 2021 at 11:04 am)brewer Wrote: OK by me but do us and society a favor, keep them to yourself. You seem to be the only one that thinks your thoughts are worth while or beneficial. And you think your thoughts are worthwhile/beneficial? Why?
Third party perspective evidenced by response and acceptance. I do go sideways occasionally, as all people do, but not nearly as frequently as you.
I'm sure there are other places you can visit where grandiose magical thinking is more readily tolerated and accepted.
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
August 31, 2021 at 12:26 pm
(August 31, 2021 at 9:56 am)Ahriman Wrote: I'm not saying cloud fairies push clouds. All I'm saying is, I don't have all the facts. How would I know for sure, that fairies don't push clouds? I am essentially arguing for a reality that is not my own, but then again, it would be nice if someone argued for my reality, so that's why I'm doing this.
No-one knows anything "for sure", but we can get close enough.
Are you curious about how the world works? Do you read about science and understand its methodology? If you did, you would understand "how" we know what we know.
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