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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 9, 2023 at 2:32 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: What is the point of this online forum masturbation? Will ukranians die less, if you post something here?

It’s called a debate. We are exchanging ideas so we are all able to have an improved understanding of the situation (+ we are having fun while doing that) Smile

+ I’m someone who watched the Alexandrov ensemble several times. Putin is destroying you present and he is a shame for your past (even for the Soviet Union) Smile
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 9, 2023 at 6:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(May 9, 2023 at 5:57 pm)Angrboda Wrote: “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.”

― Winston Churchill (disputed)

America itself is so exhausted and facing its final years in my perspective.
Probably that's why the global anti-American alliance (i.e Russia, China, Iran, North Korea) entered a global war against the U.S & its allies with Russia leading the war in the European front.


The U.S is the one being exhausted the most here, don't forget that a Russian agent became the president of the U.S even (cough cough; Trump).

The only “Real” country in that alliance is China. And yes, they can become a big problem in the future. The rest of them are basically nothing. And yes, huge resources are being lost here. No one is being exhausted. Still. The planet is set to Exceed 1.5 degree starting from this summer. So if you are Chinese, think of it for a moment Smile
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 10, 2023 at 3:16 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(May 9, 2023 at 6:45 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Nut.job.

FWIW, I postulated that the U.S. was on the long decline 20 years ago, primarily due to the original bounty of natural resources having created an economy that could not be sustained once the surplus from those natural resources began to run out, in line with the exhaustion of those resources.  WWII gave our economy a temporary reprieve, but since the 50s, we've been on the downward slope.

No, America on the decline since it stole the world's gold reserves and introduced the Petrodollar instead.
Since that day the curse of God began.

Didn't you read this verse from the Quran before?

Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.com/2?startingVerse=279

(278) O you who believe, fear Allah and give up usury that is still due, if you are truly believers.

(279) But if you do not do it, then beware of a declaration of war from Allah and His Messenger. However, if you repent, you may retain your capital – neither harming nor suffering harm.


A gold thieve, a killer, and above all deals in usury ? so the decline started way way way back.

I think you know what I'm saying while I'm reading this post Smile
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 12, 2023 at 8:39 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Russia Threatens to Destroy U.K. for Giving Ukraine Storm Shadow Missiles

Georgiy Muradov, permanent representative of Crimea under the Russian president, told Russia's state-run news agency RIA Novosti in an interview published on Friday that the U.K. may be turned "into a devastated territory" following the delivery of the weapons to Ukraine.

"The English island itself risks turning into a devastated territory [after providing Ukraine with depleted uranium shells and long-range missiles] aimed at the Russian Crimea," said Muradov.

"This conflict had nothing to do with Great Britain. I would like to believe that not all British have yet lost the instinct of self-preservation, which, apparently, the foreigners ruling the British are trying to deprive them of," said Muradov.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-crimea-t...es-1799900

They was a report on the BBC 2-3 months ago in which Boris Johnson (the Former UK Prime Minister) related how in a rather friendly telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin the later made a joke of “dropping a missile on the top of Boris Johnson”.
 
I don’t know if the man is even aware of what he is saying at this point Sad
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
From ISW:

Quote:US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan stated on May 20 that the United States may agree to transfer modern combat aircraft to Ukraine, including the F-16, on the condition that Ukraine does not use them to strike Russian territory. Sullivan stated the war in Ukraine has “evolved” and that F-16 fourth-generation fighter aircraft have now become “part of that mix” of weapons that Ukraine will need as part of a “future force to be able to deter and defend against Russian aggression as we go forward.”[12] Sullivan stated that any F-16s given to Ukraine – like other Western weapons provided to Ukraine – will be provided under the condition that they do not strike Russian territory.[13] Sullivan also stated that training Ukrainian pilots to use F-16s is the “obvious first step” and that the next steps are to “determine how to do the actual provision of planes.”[14] US President Joe Biden informed G7 leaders on May 19 that Washington will support a joint effort to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16s and other fourth generation aircraft but did not pledge that the US will send Ukraine the F-16s.[15]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgro...ct-updates

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Berlin:

Two exiled russian journalists complaining about symptoms related to poisoning, after a conference of critics to the Kremlin. Investigations started. (Un) fortunately this is becoming kinda "business as usual" in Berlin lately.  Read

Apologetics coming in, in 3...2...1...
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Color me shocked.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Ukrainians were likely behind Kremlin drone attack, US officials say.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/24/us/po...20services.

U.S. officials said the drone attack on the Kremlin earlier this month was likely orchestrated by one of Ukraine’s special military or intelligence units, the latest in a series of covert actions against Russian targets that have unnerved the Biden administration.

The agencies reached their preliminary assessment in part through intercepted communications in which Russian officials blamed Ukraine and other communications in which Ukrainian officials said they believed their country was responsible for the attack, in which two drones were flown on May 3 toward the Kremlin, causing little damage.

The attack appeared to be part of a series of operations that have made officials in the United States — Ukraine’s biggest supplier of military equipment — uncomfortable. The Biden administration is concerned about the risk that Russia will blame U.S. officials and retaliate by expanding the war beyond Ukraine.

Some U.S. officials initially considered the possibility that the Kremlin drone attack might have been carried out by the Russian government in a “false flag” operation designed to provide Moscow with a pretext to escalate the conflict.

But after the attack, the United States intercepted communications in which Russian officials were overheard discussing the incident and the findings of Moscow’s preliminary investigation into what took place. In those internal discussions, Russian officials seemed surprised by the drone intrusion and blamed Ukraine. U.S. officials said this intelligence helped convince them that the attack was not carried out by the Russians.

The United States also intercepted Ukrainian conversations in which officials said they believed that their country was responsible for the attack. But these officials appeared to have no knowledge of who within the Ukrainian system might have planned or carried it out.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
And your point ?
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 25, 2023 at 4:41 pm)Helios Wrote: And your point ?

My point is to post a news story, because we were wondering what happened. Not an I told you so because I thought there was a great chance it could have been a false flag like others were thinking as well. But, I did stay agnostic about it even though it seemed unlikely drones could get through the Russian air defense. This makes Russia's air defenses look really bad. Another blight on their name.

And the article suggests this may have been done by a Ukrainian group without Zelensky even knowing about it beforehand. That's kind of a problem if Zelenski is so not in control that the Kremlin, in a nuclear armed nation, can just be up and attacked and Zel doesn't even know. We're playing with fire here. Russian roulette.
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