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There are no answers in Genesis
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(December 11, 2022 at 11:00 pm)Helios Wrote: While this does produce correlation we must be careful not to let brain gendering be the determiner of gender as well into the trap of biological essentialism in gender. Even if someone didn't have a gendered brain it wouldn't make them any less trans. And yes the general sex traits don't always line up and while Trnsphobes will insist this is irrelevant due to rarity or dismissal due to being an "abnormality" these objections are actually what's irrelevant.

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(December 10, 2022 at 5:05 pm)Jehanne Wrote: In our Society, it is not typical for biological men to openly shave their legs, trim their eyebrows and wear skirts & dresses in public with makeup, long hair and long, painted fingernails.  Many biological women appear this way on occasion, but some never do; biological men even less so.

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(November 21, 2022 at 8:46 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: Of course, it’s easy for us with our 21st Century, materialistic minds to dismiss the Bible as a load of rubbish. But in the actual analysis, that is exactly what the Bible turns out to be---a load of rubbish! It is a book of nonsensical, fantastic stories about talking animals, talking bushes, mythical creatures, people rising from the dead, magic and pseudo-history. It is the creation of ignorant, fallible men, reflecting the prejudices, superstitions, bad theology and fears of the times in which it was written. It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation. It promotes the worship and celebration of a god who is little more than an egotistical, homicidal, fear-mongering tyrant. It is a book which any reasonable, intellectually honest, and intelligent person should heartily dismiss as bad fiction.
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The Bible is all that but it is also authentic.
It gives us a glimpse into what was happening to the jews and the people they were interacting with.
It is a product of its time.

It is too bad that the authors had their religious glasses on and they were distorting the history they were observing. Apparently, the jews did not have secular historians. It is line after line about god this and god that.

In the case of armenians, some of the authors recorded history with their religious glasses on but there is also secular historians.
I'm sure that many other cultures have properly recorded their history as well.

It is a shame that so many europeans waste their time taking this religion seriously and they don't give as much importance to real history.
Look at all the religious channels and shows in the USA, all the teleevangelists talking nonsense such as Jim Bakker.


It is a product of its time but some of these guys want to turn the USA into a theocracy ruled by their version of their christianity.
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(December 10, 2022 at 8:23 pm)Helios Wrote: I said it once I'll say it a million times what's male and female in terms of gender is up to the individual for themselves

Any thinking person can see that this is not true. Gender is a product of language and has no objective relationship to sex. If you studied any other language that was highly gendered, like French or Hebrew, you would understand that. It does not follow that individuals get to pick and choose, like the Chestshire cat, what gendered words mean to them and have them mean whatever they want them to. A culture and the conventions of its language dictate usage...not individuals.
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Quote:Any thinking person can see that this is not true. Gender is a product of language and has no objective relationship to sex. If you studied any other language that was highly gendered, like French or Hebrew, you would understand that. It does not follow that individuals get to pick and choose, like the Chestshire cat, what gendered words mean to them and have them mean whatever they want them to. A culture and the conventions of its language dictate usage...not individuals.
Nope, gender is an individual term that refers to individuals and their private experiences as that gender. You have no business dictating that.
"Change was inevitable"


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(March 23, 2023 at 10:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(December 10, 2022 at 8:23 pm)Helios Wrote: I said it once I'll say it a million times what's male and female in terms of gender is up to the individual for themselves

Any thinking person can see that this is not true. Gender is a product of language and has no objective relationship to sex. If you studied any other language that was highly gendered, like French or Hebrew, you would understand that. It does not follow that individuals get to pick and choose, like the Chestshire cat, what gendered words mean to them and have them mean whatever they want them to.  A culture and the conventions of its language dictate usage...not individuals.

The French word tour [ = tower] is feminine. But I think it should be masculine, since towers look like big dicks. 

So in the future everyone should have to make tour masculine. I have ruled.
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(March 24, 2023 at 5:15 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(March 23, 2023 at 10:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Any thinking person can see that this is not true. Gender is a product of language and has no objective relationship to sex. If you studied any other language that was highly gendered, like French or Hebrew, you would understand that. It does not follow that individuals get to pick and choose, like the Chestshire cat, what gendered words mean to them and have them mean whatever they want them to.  A culture and the conventions of its language dictate usage...not individuals.

The French word tour [ = tower] is feminine. But I think it should be masculine, since towers look like big dicks. 

So in the future everyone should have to make tour masculine. I have ruled.

Did you just show a sense of humor?  I am in shock and awe.
  
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Quote: It does not follow that individuals get to pick and choose, like the Chestshire cat
Also, it was Humpty Dumpty, not the Chestshire cat that talked about the meaning of words.
"Change was inevitable"


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(March 23, 2023 at 10:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(December 10, 2022 at 8:23 pm)Helios Wrote: I said it once I'll say it a million times what's male and female in terms of gender is up to the individual for themselves

Any thinking person can see that this is not true. Gender is a product of language and has no objective relationship to sex. If you studied any other language that was highly gendered, like French or Hebrew, you would understand that. It does not follow that individuals get to pick and choose, like the Chestshire cat, what gendered words mean to them and have them mean whatever they want them to.  A culture and the conventions of its language dictate usage...not individuals.

Are you talking about the gender thing in languages or human gender.
I assume human gender means male and female.
One of them wears a skirt, pearls, long hair, earrings, makeup, deodorant that smells like strawberries and maybe as kids, they play with dolls that look like babies.

I haven’t understood word gender although I know french.
They have le and du and un for male objects and la and de la and une for female objects.
Apparently, italian and arabic is the same way.
In arabic, it is even worst since if you are talking about a male person, the sentence changes quite a bit compared to when you talk about a female person.

In french, they use il for guys. In english, they say he.
In french, they use elle for ladies. In english, they say she.
When it is a bunch of guys and ladies, they use ils. In english, they say they.
In armenian, there is no he and she and words don’t have gender.

When I speak french, I sometimes only use the male form: le, du, un for all the words and people try to stop me and correct me.
To me, memorizing the word genders and potentially making mistakes is a big waste of time. A lot of kids lose marks because of that silly thing.

In french, some words change as well.
Es-tu serieux? (Are you serious)
If you say that to a lady, she will correct you and say it should be Es-tu serieuse? (notice the last “se”)
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