RE: Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz on reforming Islam
October 30, 2015 at 6:50 am
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Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz on reforming Islam
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Say Iraq had been an Orthodox Christian country, as it likely would have been if Islam had never been invented, but otherwise not much different (for the sake of the point). They're a troublesome country with fractious tribes ruled over be a secular government headed by a brutal and ruthless dictator. We go in and oust the dictator and the ruling party, most of whom are out on the streets and very unpopular because of the regime they supported. Thousands of them, with military and bureaucratic experience, flee to Syria, another Christian Orthodox country dominated by a sect sympathetic to the religious beliefs of the former ruling party of Iraq, and ruled by an increasingly unpopular brutal monarch. Many of the Iraqi expats join with terrorist groups who provide an outlet for their anger and hatred over being deposed and cast out.
Will they be able to find in the Bible justification for their subsequent terrorist acts? Would they be able to justify them if they were Buddhists? Hindus? About the only religious groups I would expect to remain peaceful under the circumstances are Jains and Quakers, and they wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
RE: Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz on reforming Islam
October 31, 2015 at 9:05 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2015 at 9:06 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Your compulsion to excuse islam, and the manner in which you do so, is an embarrassment to islam. It doesn't need your crackpot bullshit. Do islam a favor, and take a break.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz on reforming Islam
October 31, 2015 at 9:21 am
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(October 31, 2015 at 9:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: Your compulsion to excuse islam, and the manner in which you do so, is an embarrassment to islam. It doesn't need your crackpot bullshit. Do islam a favor, and take a break. I'm blushing..I'm really sorry rythem, but when I see human goats carrying american weapons, my brain tends to ask "where did they get those guns from". I mean, sun tzu's advice is ringing in my head all the time, when I see that nobody profits from the war but the U.S arm dealers I tend to ask myself more and more about the motives of the fighting sides.. Sorry for having a common sense, Rythem. I'm so embarrassed ! I will turn bbc on and listen to Sam asap !!! to become another "mainstream perfect citizen" and not a "conthpeerethy theoritht". Humans are full of lies and deceit, remember, you yourself believe that one man convinced 2 billion people to believe a lie ! why is Mohammed peace be upon him different than the leaders of today ?? RE: Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz on reforming Islam
October 31, 2015 at 9:29 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2015 at 9:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
He wasn't.....and that's precisely the problem.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(October 31, 2015 at 9:21 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:I worry for your soul, you know it's not to late to accept FSM as your lord and savior. He boiled for your sins. RAmen(October 31, 2015 at 9:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: Your compulsion to excuse islam, and the manner in which you do so, is an embarrassment to islam. It doesn't need your crackpot bullshit. Do islam a favor, and take a break.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
![]() (October 31, 2015 at 9:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: He wasn't.....and that's precisely the problem. You believe them when you say "I defend Islam" when I speak about the truth in the Middle East ! The terrorist organizations can be crushed in two seconds !! what keeping them alive is the governments, Islam truly has nothing to do with it. ( 256 ) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing. If Mohammed said this then...what cases do you have ??? Nay_Sayer No thank you. I prefer my FSM mediam cooked on the grill. Evie Pocahontas presents a better case. RE: Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz on reforming Islam
October 31, 2015 at 9:59 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2015 at 10:01 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Here again, we see precisely the problem. You have a compulsion to defend islam....you don't actually succeed in satisfying that compulsion, rather, you indict it with your idiocy. Go crush the terrorists...I won't hassle you if it takes more than two seconds, shitwit.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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