But Kouachi wasn't convicted of terrorism. He was convicted of 'association with wrongdoers with the intention of committing a terrorist act'.

Boru

(July 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But Kouachi wasn't convicted of terrorism.  He was convicted of 'association with wrongdoers with the intention of committing a terrorist act'.

Boru

Their last names were both Kouachi so saying Kouachi doesn't narrow it down between the two.  I'm assuming only one of them then was convicted of terrorism? 

Various articles say that Cherif was convicted of terror offences, recruiting and trying to go abroad himself to fight.

(July 17, 2016 at 3:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The trouble with that, of course, is that breaking people out of jail and trying to go fight in Syria are not terrorist acts, per se.

Boru

In most European countries it's illegal anyway. If you're a citizen, you're usually not allowed to fight for a foreign power, as a soldier or mercenary. It may be up for debate if fighting in Syria is actually fighting for a foreign power, but there are quite a lot of trials indicting the ones doing so for other reasons. Among them terrorist acts, commited in Syria.

(July 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(July 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But Kouachi wasn't convicted of terrorism.  He was convicted of 'association with wrongdoers with the intention of committing a terrorist act'.

Boru

Their last names were both Kouachi so saying Kouachi doesn't narrow it down between the two.  I'm assuming only one of them then was convicted of terrorism? 

Various articles say that Cherif was convicted of terror offences, recruiting and trying to go abroad himself to fight.

The Kouachi brothers and Coulibaly frequented a mosque in the 19th arrondissement of Paris which was salafist and extreme.

I hope no damage was done to the poor truck.

(July 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(July 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But Kouachi wasn't convicted of terrorism.  He was convicted of 'association with wrongdoers with the intention of committing a terrorist act'.

Boru

Their last names were both Kouachi so saying Kouachi doesn't narrow it down between the two.  I'm assuming only one of them then was convicted of terrorism? 

Various articles say that Cherif was convicted of terror offences, recruiting and trying to go abroad himself to fight.

Sorry, I did mean Cherif - I should have been clearer. But being convicted of 'terror offenses' - in his case - isn't quite the same as being 'a convicted terrorist', since he didn't commit terrorist acts.

Boru

(July 17, 2016 at 4:04 pm)abaris Wrote:

(July 17, 2016 at 3:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The trouble with that, of course, is that breaking people out of jail and trying to go fight in Syria are not terrorist acts, per se.

Boru

In most European countries it's illegal anyway. If you're a citizen, you're usually not allowed to fight for a foreign power, as a soldier or mercenary. It may be up for debate if fighting in Syria is actually fighting for a foreign power, but there are quite a lot of trials indicting the ones doing so for other reasons. Among them terrorist acts, commited in Syria.

I didn't say it was legal, I said it wasn't a terrorist act. While one may certainly commit terrorist acts IN Syria, trying to get TO Syria doesn't qualify one as a terrorist.

Boru

(July 17, 2016 at 3:12 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(July 17, 2016 at 11:56 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: You want Russia and China to smack France around?? Or the US? As always you seem a little confused. Trust me, as a Muslim, you don't want to see what the Russians or Chinese are going to do the Muslim world if they were as involved in the middle east like the US is.

Of course what's worse then all three is what Muslims do to each other. Muslims are by far the number one victims of Islamic terrorism.

It depends on which way you look at it. If we are talking about Shi'as and Yazidis, then I am in agreement. Sh'ia muslims make up a very small percentage of Islam as a whole, and to be honest, it looks like Sunni Islam wants, for an end goal that is, a 100% conversion to their version of Islam. Further to your comment about Russia and China, there is continuing slavery over there (China) with the most vulnerable groups being Tajiks and Shi'as.

Yazidis aren't Muslim, and regardless of Sunni, Shia or whatever Muslims are the number one victims of Islamic terrorism. It's not like the Shia's haven't committed there share of terrorism against the Sunni. The whole region is Muslims killing one another. We just focus on the very small amount of spill over that happens in the west.