(October 4, 2016 at 12:07 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 3, 2016 at 2:51 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: So then you'd be perfectly fine with replacing the word "god" with Allah on our money and in the taking of oaths for public offices and for testifying in court, right?

Oh my globb..

God is not a deity's name Just like Allah is not a deity's name. they are generic terms that describes a deity that holds that title. Arab Christians use the term allah.

So at it's core saying in God we trust In allah we trust is saying the same thing.

If clinton is elected and she lets in all the Syrians she wants then perhaps we will have to shift from God to allah as they will be the ones making the rules for those of us who are left.

 
*emphasis mine.  Remember you said that. Because you then say this shit with a video:

(October 4, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 3, 2016 at 3:15 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I guess the real question is, what does Drich mean by 'formal declaration'?

Anyone can declare they're a member of any religion or not (although, being an avowed Muslim or atheist is political suicide).  That was Ben Carson's and Ted Cruz's political strategy - cozy up to evangelicals.

What can't happen is any formal - as in governmental - declaration of allegiance to any particular god, even something as broad as the Judeo-Christian god.  This is a secular nation.  Always has been.

proof? It would seem to me the bill of rights says otherwise. As a secular nation would declare it's intention to refrain from anything religious, yet the congress still opens with a long standing tradition of prayer. That the capitol building was used as a church for almost 100 years also speaks contary, the fact that congress sought and offically had a specific version of the bible to be printed and distributed in schools all point to the lie that this country was founded as a secular nation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGH-6adzue0

ooops...

*emphasis mine

You contradict yourself and make yourself look like an idiot. Clearly in that video the "god" references are to the Abrahamic god. Clearly, the "in god we trust" on our coin and in the oaths that are sworn, are references to the Abrahamic god. You can't seriously tell me that YOU wouldn't have an issue with seeing Allah on our coin or money or having to swear an oath to Allah. If you say you don't; you're a liar.

Oh and that video... you've circulated it around here more than once. I see it's your "go to". Well, it isn't everyone's go to and quite frankly, the FFRF should be petitioning Congress to make sure that the practice of prayer before any session, tour or anything related to any government office should be immediately BANNED. Period. That shit doesn't belong in a secular governmental society.

You wanna pray? How about you do exactly what your bible suggests and you do that shit in private. Read Matthew sometime and you'll know that you aren't supposed to do that shit in public anyway.

(October 4, 2016 at 1:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 1:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Dude. I'm not one who thinks God only speaks english.
I have called God by many names.
O-pa (korean for dad)
Abba (arimaic for daddy)
Father

No one's asking you what you cry out in terror at night, Drich.....

Quote:It makes no difference what your mouth says God is listening to your heart.

Right...so...to be clear....if you had to swear to allah, and our currency had "in allah we trust" on it, you'd be a-ok with that?

Quote:I live out in the country now myself... And spent alot of time hunting. My uncle had a fist fight with a forrest ranger before, and at the same time he was arrested guns and truck confiscated and offered no resistance... How could this happen?

Because in smaller populations people know each other. The ranger my uncle fought was at the house the following weekend hanging out.. while the cop who arrested him was a complete stranger. You are less apt to shoot someone whom you know is not meaning to kill you to get out of some trivial BS.

In a city of hundreds of thousands if not millions it is not possible for a few thousand officers to get to know everyone.

Take the race componet out of it moron. and put in the specifics as to why this man was shot over that one. Judge that and nothing else.

I'd love to take the race out of it..in fact I'd love for the -police- to take the race out of it...but apparently, they're incapable....so what are we talking about?

Bold is mine.

That is just nonsense though. If someone was going to use "Allah", then they would use the entire phrase "bialllah 'ana ealaa thiqa", or words to that effect.

(October 4, 2016 at 12:28 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 12:25 pm)RobertE Wrote: If Martin Luther King had been alive today, he would be thoroughly ashamed of his proper race for protesting with violence when he wanted peace. In fact, the great man would be turning in his grave to see all that work he tried to do being undone right at this moment in time. Furthermore, if ever there was a model that Martin Luther King would have showed the black population, it would have been the Asian model which has been tried, tested and has succeeded. Asian immigrants have done more in 1 generation than a 7th-10th generation black or white person would have done. They don't sulk, they don't have chips on their shoulders the size of a McDo Big Mac.

I'm not touching this post with a ten foot pole.

which is why this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzsE5heUuA
is ok.

How about learn to stand up for what is right despite what it makes you look like to others.

(October 4, 2016 at 1:46 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 12:28 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'm not touching this post with a ten foot pole.

which is why this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzsE5heUuA
is ok.

How about learn to stand up for what is right despite what it makes you look like to others.

Drich, you don't know the first thing about me or my views on this issue.

I envy those that haven't met you.

(October 4, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's not the first time in thread the sentiments been offered.  Attempting to shame a group for their reaction to oppression by invoking the spirit of a man -assassinated- for his reaction to oppression...many decades after said oppression was -supposed- to have been made illegal...and as it continues to occur.  Go ahead, tell those darkies how they should be acting, tell them what it means to be a good boy, shame the shit out of them...and just to be thorough, bring up MLK.....you may not have pissed everyone off yet.  

These fuckers all read from the same scripts.

Please... is it not you conclusion that anyone who say ANYTHING that does not support rioting in the street is racist? How is that not right out of chapter one page one of the liberal's hand book?

How about this: It is never ok to burn down someone's business. It is Never ok to try and throw a white news camera man into a fire. It is never ok to shoulder check a white news reporter for just reporting the news. Unless your black of course then it's "The purge" (All crime is legal) when a man gets shot for acting crazy around police.

(October 4, 2016 at 12:39 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 12:38 pm)Drich Wrote: hey, moron!

If clinton says it is illegal for churchs to preach against abortion/Thou shalt not kill babies to their own congregations, then that is the state making laws concerning the church!

THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT!!!

Who the hell is making laws saying it's illegal for churches to preach against abortion?

clinton

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/04/27/hil...e-abortion

(October 4, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 12:39 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Who the hell is making laws saying it's illegal for churches to preach against abortion?

clinton

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/04/27/hil...e-abortion

Your reading comprehension is about as good as your spelling. If what you got out of that article is "Clinton will make being against abortion illegal" then I don't know what to tell you, because it wouldn't make sense to you anyway.

(October 4, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Drich Wrote: How about this: It is never ok to burn down someone's business.

Agreed.

The rest of what you said - diatribe. Borderline racist by the way, but that never kept you from mistakenly using your ass instead of the upper orifice for talking.

How about adding, it's never OK to shoot unarmed peope, to shoot kids playing with toy guns or social workers trying to protect their wards.

That's never OK either. But that's not how you're ticking. The police is always right, since obeying authority is the first duty of any citizen. If you even get that chance, that is. The kid playing with a toy gun didn't. The naked and mentally disturbed guy didn't get that chance either. Hm, wonder where he could have hidden his weapon to pose an imminent threat.

(October 4, 2016 at 1:49 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Drich, you don't know the first thing about me or my views on this issue.

I envy those that haven't met you.

Also, Fox news link. The Prawda of the aging rightwing white male.

(October 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Drich Wrote: clinton

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/04/27/hil...e-abortion

Your reading comprehension is about as good as your spelling.  If what you got out of that article is "Clinton will make being against abortion illegal" then I don't know what to tell you, because it wouldn't make sense to you anyway.

Typical grammar nazi response...

(October 4, 2016 at 2:01 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(October 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Your reading comprehension is about as good as your spelling.  If what you got out of that article is "Clinton will make being against abortion illegal" then I don't know what to tell you, because it wouldn't make sense to you anyway.

Typical grammar nazi response...

Saying that Drich doesn't understand an article and that it's not making the point he thinks it is, isn't "being a grammar nazi," it's highlighting the fact that Drich doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. The fact that Drich can't spell is just icing on the cake, and I've been done with being civil towards him for a long time.

Read the article yourself, Robert.  Does it say that "Clinton will make being against abortion illegal"?