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The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: *yawn*

Getting back to Abraham. What twisted ethical viewpoint would consider sacrificing your own son a virtue? The Sufi's have always tried to soften the blunt savagery of Islam and the other two perpetuators of this twisted moral teaching. With good reason. It is a heinous story that should be denounced and ridiculed. Any one who considers Abraham a role model should not have children.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: *yawn*

"Yawn" is what us "disbelievers" do, and if you want to call me that I wont care, SERIOUSLY, I won't get upset.

But us, immoral, kitten, baby eating "non-believers", "atheists" or as you put it, "disbelievers" ... we all *yawn* at you, and Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists. 

I also record the NFL without their permission. If that doesn't put me on par with serial killers, I don't know what does.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: *yawn*
What twisted ethical viewpoint would consider sacrificing your own son a virtue? 

It's worse then that, if we go by it's a virtue, than God deceiving Abraham and tricking him would be ok. But a huge belief is that God doesn't deceive and is always truthful.

The way it is explained is problematic on that level as well. It contradicts God's truthful nature.
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Meh, maybe allah's just a dick and wants people who are willing to kil their own kids, truthfully.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: *yawn*

Getting back to Abraham. What twisted ethical viewpoint would consider sacrificing your own son a virtue? The Sufi's have always tried to soften the blunt savagery of Islam and the other two perpetuators of this twisted moral teaching. With good reason. It is a heinous story that should be denounced and ridiculed. Any one who considers Abraham a role model should not have children.

The moral virtue is simple: loyalty.
Abraham loved his son. And waited to a very long age until he had him. So sacrificing was a test for loyalty more than anything.

Still; if chose to do it God will stop it -like the real story-, if he chose not to, his son will also live. So his son will live in both scenarios.

Loyalty.
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See, allah wants to know you'd at least do it.... of he told you to. 

What a dick.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: See, allah wants to know you'd at least do it.... of he told you to. 

What a dick.

He doesn't "want to know", he already knows.
But this is how life is: what God "knows" is what happens. Fate is already written; but for it to happen, it must take place in real time.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote: What twisted ethical viewpoint would consider sacrificing your own son a virtue? 

It's worse then that, if we go by it's a virtue, than God deceiving Abraham and tricking him would be ok. But a huge belief is that God doesn't deceive and is always truthful.

The way it is explained is problematic on that level as well. It contradicts God's truthful nature.
Who gives a flying fuck what god thinks! I am laying the weight of guilt on Abraham and anyone else that thinks this servile evil is virtuous.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
Quote:Khemikal

See, allah wants to know you'd at least do it.... of he told you to. 

What a ****.

You see; troll ?

He is cursing God :Big Grin
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 8:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Getting back to Abraham. What twisted ethical viewpoint would consider sacrificing your own son a virtue? The Sufi's have always tried to soften the blunt savagery of Islam and the other two perpetuators of this twisted moral teaching. With good reason. It is a heinous story that should be denounced and ridiculed. Any one who considers Abraham a role model should not have children.

The moral virtue is simple: loyalty.
Abraham loved his son. And waited to a very long age until he had him. So sacrificing was a test for loyalty more than anything.

Still; if chose to do it God will stop it -like the real story-, if he chose not to, his son will also live. So his son will live in both scenarios.

Loyalty.
Fuck that shit! Abraham was a psychopath! If loyalty is an option for you, then you are a psychopath too! If you hear voices telling you to kill anybody, please save others needless trauma and check yourself into a psych hospital. Voices telling you to kill will get you admitted these days! Why? Because, as a society, we have morally and rationally progressed since the bronze age.
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