(June 2, 2020 at 2:16 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(May 30, 2020 at 6:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Pretty much the same really.


How does that nose gold taste?

Every church has a different "god", each smaller than the last. Most of them are hateful little beasts that no self-respecting person would believe in.


I'm starting from the beginning because you failed to. Provide evidence for your deity. Once you've established its existence we can debate its attitude toward our silly little species.

Quote:Pretty much the same really.

Opinions differ.   You have yours and I have mine.

Quote:How does that nose gold taste?

That is your story, remember.  So you have to tell me. 

Quote:Every church has a different "god", each smaller than the last.

Don't listen too much to the Babies of God that do not know much.

Quote:Most of them are hateful little beasts that no self-respecting person would believe in.

The Babies of God Love their Father.  But seems you don't know why?

Quote:I'm starting from the beginning because you failed to. Provide evidence for your deity.

You just miss it.  Read again.  

Quote:Once you've established its existence we can debate its attitude toward our silly little species.

I am existing.  Or did you miss me?

Johan! You have blown your wad here! Grab a tissue and help us wipe up after you!

(May 30, 2020 at 12:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Sorry for that.  I didn't mean for you to go about it in an unlawful way.

You didn't mean to but you did it anyway. Because you are a cunt.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: I gave it to you all.

False. You gave YOUR spin on it which I spent the effort on to determine the truth. You are no interested in truth.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Right in the open. 

An illegal and immoral act.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: But unfortunately the "bosses" there didn't realize there was nothing wrong in doing it because it is done with the consent of all.

Lie. You did not have the consent of anyone I spoke to, at all.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Bosses rule in laws and they don't have Love nor Wisdom.  That is the reason for their lack of judgment skills.  So they didn't know that a court case is a public case.

Apparently, you don't know how any of that works.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Yep.  It is all true.  It is just the opinions of people misinterpreting that gives problems.

There is no other way to interpret the facts.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: This is a lie.  I don't operate in threats and neither in physical power.  That is from the other side.  As you have still neglected to post the link of an actual event too.

Have you forgotten the side discussion about the nature of the traditional african club you were wielding? You even named it. 

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The one in SGU forum under the heading of "Fake court orders".  Where the pastor grabbed me at the throat and ran me against the wall and jacked me up against the wall.  All on my throat with his hands. In Shoprite the day before Christmas in the year 2000.  And my actions were first trying to help him carry his bags and secondly accepting my death and not resisting and afterwards just a word of Forgiveness to him. 

Given what I know, I would consider such action against you to be entirely justified. You are demonstrably insane, demonstrably violent and a clear and present danger to those around you.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: So try to stick to actual events.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.  That is the "sacrosanct" spirit making you delusional.  As evil spirits take over the mind and make you act in that "delusional" way.  

Except there is no such thing as spirits, you moron.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: My home town tried.  They got my mother involved and the doctors.  But they also had to get one outsider doctor.  He didn't want to play along.  So their whole plan of action fell through. 

Again.  Stick to the facts.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.

That is called "staging an intervention". You might look up what that is and why it is done.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The court judgment was looked at very closely and precisely dissected by an experienced person in the Skeptic Society Forum.  I suggested twice you should look at it.  You still stubbornly refuse.  So please do that.  Because without sticking to the facts you come over as very "delusional".

Lie. Why must you lie so much? Oh, it's because you are nuttier than a bag of peanuts.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Not perfectly true.  You actually told me about it.

So your attempt to imply that you had some special insight was another lie. Understood, liar.

I was fairly sure the matter had been mentioned in one of those threads, but you are simply not worth the effort of checking.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You forgot you told me?

Sure, I did not recall if I had or not, but since I am open about such matters, I figured I probably had. Doesn't explain why you felt a need to lie about it.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Not totally right again.  Telling my wife she is on the wrong road in siding with court orders against me is not "contesting" a divorce.

It is when you use violence. 

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: These court orders were against me for revealing their system of child abuse in Die Herberg.  At that stage 20 years ago they were into corporal punishement in Die Herberg. I spoke against it and everybody tried their best to silence me.  Even the churches because they said it is from God.

More lies.

Quote:I wanted it. I am glad to be rid of the woman and haven't ever been happier.

A divorce is just that.  A broken family.  Nothing to be happy about.

False. That is not how relationships work and your lack of that understanding is one of the reasons that you are in your current condition.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Good for you.  

Yes, it is.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Good for you.

Yup.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: A house without a wife and mother is just that.  A broken family life.  It was at this point in ISF that you got angry at me and started fighting me.  Remember?

First, a house is merely a house. That is all.
Second, I have  fine famlial relations.
Third, I was angry with you from the time you showed up, I had to operate within the MA that we both signed up to to obtain membership. I followed those rules and you did not. Thus I am still there and you are banned. Because you couldn't follow basic rules.

There is a difference this time round this merry-go-round. This site has different rules, which once again you struggle to follow.
On this site, I have a lot more freedom to state the facts.

(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: To me it was something I spoke against.  But I didn't do anything more that warning my wife.  It was my wife's decision and she has to live with the negative consequences.  But I understood her position.  She was threatened by her boss with losing her job if she doesn't' side with the court orders in breaking up our family life.

You did a lot more than just "warn" her. You physically and verbally terrorised her.

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(May 30, 2020 at 8:52 am)chimp3 Wrote: I wonder if God has a good divorce lawyer?

According to the bible, god had a wife that was later dispensed with called Asherah, so celestial divorce lawyers it is.

Quote:You didn't mean to but you did it anyway. Because you are a cunt.

Nope.  A "cunt" can not do that.  It has another usage.  Seems your "anger" is taking your mind.  Like evil spirit does.  I did warn you about them.  They made those acting against me in that spirit "sick to death" you said. 

Quote:False. You gave YOUR spin on it which I spent the effort on to determine the truth. You are no interested in truth.

I said you gave the spin and you said I gave it.  But it is obvious that you did it because that is what an evil spirit of anger does.  But of course you have all the evidence.  So just link us to the "spin".  Because at this point in time it is you. 

Quote:An illegal and immoral act.

The only one "immoral" here is you.  You went behind my back and you and the pastors created "spins".  And now the "pastors" are hiding away from their "spin".  Leaving you in the open to deal with the "spin". 

Quote:Lie. You did not have the consent of anyone I spoke to, at all.

Your "spin" again.  Link us to the evidence.  

Quote:There is no other way to interpret the facts.

There is.  The "cudgel" was in the hands of my wife.  I just turned the other cheek.  And in the streets the "cudgel" was in the hands of the opposing party.  I never acted in anger.  Always in Love and Wisdom. 

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: This is a lie.  I don't operate in threats and neither in physical power.  That is from the other side.  As you have still neglected to post the link of an actual event too.

Have you forgotten the side discussion about the nature of the traditional african club you were wielding? You even named it.

That was in the hands of my Wife.  But after i told the head elder about it the second time she used it against me she was too scared to do it the third time.  The disgrace stopped that anger devil in its tracks.

And the neglect from your side to post the link to that forum is noted.  As the evidence is there.  But you are hiding them.  It doesn't look good and will add to your "sick of death" that you saw in Robertson.  For siding with evil.  

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The one in SGU forum under the heading of "Fake court orders".  Where the pastor grabbed me at the throat and ran me against the wall and jacked me up against the wall.  All on my throat with his hands. In Shoprite the day before Christmas in the year 2000.  And my actions were first trying to help him carry his bags and secondly accepting my death and not resisting and afterwards just a word of Forgiveness to him. 

Given what I know, I would consider such action against you to be entirely justified. You are demonstrably insane, demonstrably violent and a clear and present danger to those around you.

Ok.  You knew all along it was actually the pastors that was using violence against me and not from my side.  Beating me up where they can find me.  And you calling me the "violent and dangerous" one is clearly evidence on the "evil spirit" of anger having taken your mind and making you "sick to death".  Totally "delusional".  Just as those in Robertson.  And i warned you against it.  

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: So try to stick to actual events.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.  That is the "sacrosanct" spirit making you delusional.  As evil spirits take over the mind and make you act in that "delusional" way.  

Except there is no such thing as spirits, you moron

Well I did warn you.  Many times.  So just go on and get even more "sick to death".  As you saw those in Robertson are.  And that is where the evil spirit of calling me a "cunt and a moron" is taking you now.  Deeper and deeper into your "sick to death".  With Robertson.  

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: My home town tried.  They got my mother involved and the doctors.  But they also had to get one outsider doctor.  He didn't want to play along.  So their whole plan of action fell through. 

Again.  Stick to the facts.  Keep your imaginations out of it.  You seem very delusional in doing that.

That is called "staging an intervention". You might look up what that is and why it is done.

Nope.  It is sticking to the facts.   But being controlled by your "anger spirit" you will of course not see this.  So give us the facts.  You have them.  3 Forums full of them.  But you present none.  Having been made "delusional" by that spirit.  

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The court judgment was looked at very closely and precisely dissected by an experienced person in the Skeptic Society Forum.  I suggested twice you should look at it.  You still stubbornly refuse.  So please do that.  Because without sticking to the facts you come over as very "delusional".

Lie. Why must you lie so much? Oh, it's because you are nuttier than a bag of peanuts.

Well just link us to the Skeptic Society Forum then we can see who is lying.  Me or you.  You can not get it easier than that.


And I did warn you about this Forum that "dissected" the courts orders.  By their professional "Nicky" there.  Seems the "anger" evil spirit has now completely taken over your mind.  Making you totally "delusional". 

Quote:So your attempt to imply that you had some special insight was another lie. Understood, liar.

Nope.   Saying that I used it to discern you had a divorce is you lying.  But of course you can link me to this "lie" of mine.  You should stop lying.  It is obvious.   It is a disgrace to you.  Making you "sick to death". 

Quote:Sure, I did not recall if I had or not, but since I am open about such matters, I figured I probably had. Doesn't explain why you felt a need to lie about it.

True.  There is no reason.  Because it is you being "delusional" as result of the evil spirit of anger that took your mind.  Just like they did the pastors and my wife.  And they started assaulting me.  To be a disgrace to themselves.  And seems the "disgrace" was too powerful to stick to experiencing it.  So they had to give it up.   Another disgrace.  To loose the fight.    Oops!  No wonder they can not come here and face me.  Giving you a fake reason that you fell for. 

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Not totally right again.  Telling my wife she is on the wrong road in siding with court orders against me is not "contesting" a divorce.

It is when you use violence.  It is when you use violence. 

As I said already.  The "cudgel" was in the hands of my wife.  But i have God to fight my case so I didn't need to make one against her.  I Forgive.   

And it is easy to link me to the "violence" from my side in the court orders.  The only one mentioned there is from the side that my wife was on.   And my actions were clearly stated there.  "Turning the other cheek".  As Godly people do.  Just take a look in the "dissected" court orders in the Skeptic Society Forum.  Should be easy to find.  I can unfortunately not link you.  As there is not Wisdom where there is laws in its place.

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: These court orders were against me for revealing their system of child abuse in Die Herberg.  At that stage 20 years ago they were into corporal punishement in Die Herberg. I spoke against it and everybody tried their best to silence me.  Even the churches because they said it is from God.

More lies.

It is easy to find it out.  Just took a look in the court orders that was dissected by the Skeptic Society Forum.  I did tell you about it.  But you stubbornly refused.  Being "delusional" according to the power of the evil spirit of anger that took your mind under its control.  Making you "sick to death".  As you mentioned those in Robertson were.  

Quote:Third, I was angry with you from the time you showed up, I had to operate within the MA that we both signed up to to obtain membership

So you agree you are controlled by an evil spirit of anger messing up your intellect and making you act "delusional".  Good.

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(May 30, 2020 at 2:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: To me it was something I spoke against.  But I didn't do anything more that warning my wife.  It was my wife's decision and she has to live with the negative consequences.  But I understood her position.  She was threatened by her boss with losing her job if she doesn't' side with the court orders in breaking up our family life.

You did a lot more than just "warn" her. You physically and verbally terrorised her.

Nope.  I don't allow for "evil spirits" in me.  I was in the Spirit of Love and Wisdom.  The Holy Spirit of God.  And that Spirit does not act according to the evil spirit in the opposition.  This is the spirit of my wife who did this to me.  Just go to the Skeptic Society Forum where they "dissected" the court orders and you will find the evidence.  I can unfortunately not link you due to the lack of Love and Wisdom where the "bosses" rule.

Your ex turned you into a newt, but you got better, then? That's the story you're running with?

IDK, everytime somebody gets a wild hair up their ass and calls their ex a witch, we find that their peen was tiny and their cattle malnourished before she ever put a hex on either of them. OTOH, I do have some respect for prosecutors who get convictions for women directing or inflicting "evil spirits" on their SO's...to this or that end.

Imagine the skill required to convict a witch, what with witches not existing. I suspect that it boils down to jury selection. Hand me a bunch of folks like you and it might stick.

(May 21, 2020 at 6:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: We have heard that God is Love.  But presently we don't understand much of it.  We really feel we need God to come and solve our crisis in covid19.  If He Loves us then obviously He should do it.  Superman loves us and if he was real then He would long ago came flying in and block covid19 in its tracks.  But God is not doing it. 

Maybe we don't understand His Love?

Maybe He doesn't know?


Where do we begin to look for the Love of a God that says He is Real?

And maybe we have to conclude that He doesn't exist.

It was Woody Allen who said, "If it turns out that there is a God...the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever."

(June 2, 2020 at 8:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: <snip the fucked up quote mess>

Wow. Even after all this time you still fail to manage quotes.

Anyway, please do tell me all about my "current situation". I m curious as to what fantasy you will invent.

(June 2, 2020 at 8:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Nope.  I don't allow for "evil spirits" in me.  I was in the Spirit of Love and Wisdom.  The Holy Spirit of God.  And that Spirit does not act according to the evil spirit in the opposition. 

No such thing as spirits of any sort besides the cheap ones you sell.

(June 2, 2020 at 8:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: This is the spirit of my wife who did this to me. 

And now we get to it. It is all your ex-wifes fault and you are blameless. You are one sick puppy.

(June 2, 2020 at 8:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Just go to the Skeptic Society Forum where they "dissected" the court orders and you will find the evidence.  I can unfortunately not link you due to the lack of Love and Wisdom where the "bosses" rule.

I did. You lied. Now what?

(May 30, 2020 at 11:56 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Johanabrahams
I don’t know if you’re aware of this yet, but I am actually god. I am Jesus, here to reckon to all of you. Judgement day is here. The lord wanted to let a chick have a crack at this. I am the light and the daughter of love. Do you accept me as your personal savior?

Quote:I don’t know if you’re aware of this yet, but I am actually god.

True.  God gave you the Life of Jesus.  I am glad you know it.  

Quote:I am Jesus

that is True.  Your Godly Parents give birth to you as Jesus.

Quote:, here to reckon to all of you.

Jesus is the Child.  To enjoy Family Life with His Parents.  

Quote:Judgement day is here.

Sure.  When all see our Relationship they will be judged by their "jealousy" spirit.  And then they will change to join us.

Quote:The lord wanted to let a chick have a crack at this.

Sure.  To God His Girls and Boys are just the same.  It is all about how much they want to grow into the Life of their Parents

Quote:I am the light and the daughter of love.

Yep.  In your New Life of Jesus you are full of Love and the Light to the world in their lack of it.

Quote:Do you accept me as your personal savior?

Sure.  To be my Daughter is to save me from "loneliness".  Because without a Daughter I can not be a Mother.

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(May 30, 2020 at 9:28 am)arewethereyet Wrote:

(May 30, 2020 at 9:01 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: If God Loves you then He would want you to ask Him personally.  Because getting an answer from Him personally is what it all is about.

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For a Relationship to work you have to give your thoughts and feelings.  That is giving your soul to another.  I gave mine to everyone.  Just as God gave His.  He is your Father.  And when you accept Him for who and what He is the connection is established.  Love does not force.

Some might make a connection while most might miss making it.  I am His Wife.  And then there are His Children too.  Granted most are still Babies fighting one another in their various religions and doctrines.  But Babies are rather cute.  And God Loves His Babies too.

You are off your meds, aren't you?

You have the problem.  You "doubt".

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(May 30, 2020 at 9:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(May 30, 2020 at 6:19 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Of course you are welcome to prove that I am lying.

Sure, proof that you are full of shit is that you debunk yourself over and over in this topic. Here's an example

Johanabrahams Wrote:I said "evil" got those guys drowned.  God is not evil and not into punishment.   So God didn't punish Hitler.  But evil got him in the end.

Johanabrahams Wrote:Sure He made evil for those that want it.

You first claim that God is love but then you admit that God created evil.

You claim that God is not into punishment but that evil punished evil people -- but if God created that evil then God punished them because God created them evil. You try to dodge this by saying "people chose evil God created" but someone has to be evil to "choose" evil.

Quote:You claim that God is not into punishment but that evil punished evil people -- but if God created that evil then God punished them because God created them evil. You try to dodge this by saying "people chose evil God created" but someone has to be evil to "choose" evil.

It is just human logic running around with you.  Your punishment for enjoying it.  But you were warned not to eat of that tree.

Gen. 2
 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Same with this.  God created evil for those that want it.  But warned them against it.  If they don't heed the warning they will reap the negative consequences.

If you are jealous of your brother then you want to kill him.  God had to provide for you.  There has to be a choice.

Gen. 4
 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.
  4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
   But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
   And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
  7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.*n6
   And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
   ¶And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper?
  10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.
   And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand;
   When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

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(June 2, 2020 at 2:55 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(June 2, 2020 at 2:16 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Opinions differ.   You have yours and I have mine.



That is your story, remember.  So you have to tell me. 




Don't listen too much to the Babies of God that do not know much.





The Babies of God Love their Father.  But seems you don't know why?



You just miss it.  Read again.  




I am existing.  Or did you miss me?

Johan! You have blown your wad here! Grab a tissue and help us wipe up after you!

Thanks for helping with the clean.  I could have done it myself but it is so much better when we are together.

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(June 2, 2020 at 8:30 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(May 21, 2020 at 6:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: We have heard that God is Love.  But presently we don't understand much of it.  We really feel we need God to come and solve our crisis in covid19.  If He Loves us then obviously He should do it.  Superman loves us and if he was real then He would long ago came flying in and block covid19 in its tracks.  But God is not doing it. 

Maybe we don't understand His Love?

Maybe He doesn't know?


Where do we begin to look for the Love of a God that says He is Real?

And maybe we have to conclude that He doesn't exist.

It was Woody Allen who said, "If it turns out that there is a God...the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever."

Ok.  How did you get to that opinion?

At work.

I've a question.

Though it's a tad personal and I'll understand if Johanabraham's doesn't wish to reply but....

What is their 'Native' language?

Because their English use is.... 'Different' too say the least.

Cheers.

(June 2, 2020 at 9:14 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is just human logic running around with you. Your punishment for enjoying it. But you were warned not to eat of that tree.

Were Adam and Eve innocent before eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge?

(May 30, 2020 at 8:31 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: yep.  I tried to help them to get out of their "incognito" and into Real Joy and Happiness in knowing one another.  Knowing one another is so essential for Happiness.  They decided they will rather stay in cold intellectualism.  Everyone has his choice.  Love can not be forced.  It has to be accepted.

Here John touches on on of his most distributing characteristics. He legitimately believes that anonymity is something people need to be liberated from. Posting his ex-wife's contact information online, security videos from the bar he worked at, the names, addresses and contact information of people who took out restraining orders against him are all things he considers a righteous act. He will try to DOX all of you and he will feel no moral qualms about it because he has a religious belief that DOXing you is God's will, that your anonymity is a barrier to your salvation.

He was kicked off another forum for DOXing. As you can see from his posts here he accepts no responsibility for breaking that forum's rules. He has a track record of breaking whatever rules he considers a hindrance to his ideas of how things "should" be.

At work.

So..... is that kind of behaviour a 'Sociopathy'?

They don't..... understand others needs/wants?

Or they, perhaps, think their ideas/want trump all others?

Cheers.