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The ethics of worship
#11
RE: The ethics of worship
(September 11, 2020 at 7:57 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Why does a god need to be worshiped?  What does he/it get out of it?

I think he's compensating for something.....


A case of micropenis perhaps?
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#12
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(September 12, 2020 at 8:29 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(September 11, 2020 at 7:57 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Why does a god need to be worshiped?  What does he/it get out of it?

I think he's compensating for something.....


A case of micropenis perhaps?

Evidently mary didn’t feel it.
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#13
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#14
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Did noah have all the children on the magic boat too?

At any rate, claims of moral subjectivity which arise as a consequence of excusing your god for evil are unlikely to sway very many people.
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#15
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Jesus is like Pinocchio.  He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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#16
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When you have to claim a world with no children to make your narrative not make God look bad....
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#17
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(September 14, 2020 at 3:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Did noah have all the children on the magic boat too?

At any rate, claims of moral subjectivity which arise as a consequence of excusing your god for evil are unlikely to sway very many people.

I disagree on the sentiment of persuasion.

People, in my experience, will be swayed more by actions than an equal sentiment put into words. It does not matter, in this regard, whatever you say - if they do not correlate into action. The same way we use the most common fallacy of attributing sufficient correlation between two events with causing a preceding event with a following one, without even using some sort of proof of mechanism to demonstrate this.

In the case of theists, I think it's due to a deficiency in critical thinking. Especially so in examining their own faith. I don't know where this deficiency, which I think is present, comes from but I speculate it's a result of indoctrination, particularly of surrendering their ability to reason and trusting an authority figure to decide for them (Sunday school teacher, priest, bishop, pope) on what to think.

The result is that no matter the behavior recorded by 'holy' texts of their god, they're unable to determine if it is evil or not. I know this intimately, from when I still believed in a god of the Christian conviction.

But really, it's a question of efficiency of persuasion. So far, the leading apologists are so convinced of their tactic that they're able to lie to themselves, thanks to compartmentalization. Yet, I wouldn't be surprised by the amount of theist authority figures who realized they were in error, but resorted to grifting thanks to the human capital, power & wealth their position grants them.
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#18
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What fresh hell can this be? - Dorothy Parker
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#19
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(September 15, 2020 at 3:32 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(September 15, 2020 at 5:49 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Your poor English is too difficult to read and is not worth the effort or the investment of time.

His claim has been that we are too stupid for him to waste his perfect English on.  That's his story anyway.

Lmao.
Jesus is like Pinocchio.  He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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#20
RE: The ethics of worship
(September 14, 2020 at 3:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Did noah have all the children on the magic boat too?

At any rate, claims of moral subjectivity which arise as a consequence of excusing your god for evil are unlikely to sway very many people.

what children??? the bible never mentions them/any at the time of the flood. that is an atheist add on.
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