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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:13 am
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Psalms 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved."
The earth moves.
2 Samuel 7:10-11 "And I will provide a place for my people Israel and will plant them so that they can have a home of their own and no longer be disturbed. Wicked people will not oppress them anymore, as they did at the beginning 11 and have done ever since the time I appointed leaders over my people Israel."
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:16 am
(October 11, 2012 at 6:05 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: (October 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: ....The truth of scripture has never been disproved, all you want to do is focus on the history of scripture and they were never written for a historical account, they are a spiritual guide to a life that is better than anything you can imagine.
And that's why we should dismiss them. IF God existed and IF the bible were the word of God, we would expect the bible to be completely unlike the other writings and beliefs during time it was written! We should expect to find scientific truths in it that couldn't have been known back then, and truly unambiguous and verifiably old prophecies that have come true. We would expect absolutely NO contradictions at all in the bible. Eye witness accounts wouldn't have any contradictions between them!
The Bible, if really the word of God, would provide perfect answers to questions such as Why does God exist? Why did God create a world in which there's evil? How does one know what is real? What is the nature of knowledge? etc...
The Bible should have been a truly monumental work of science, history, and philosophy.
Leave it to you to leave out those who have a simple mind, God planned for all, even those who will reject Him.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:16 am
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(October 12, 2012 at 12:13 am)Darkstar Wrote: Psalms 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved."
The earth moves.
That happens to be an example of the flat earth cosmology prevalent among ancient Israelites and other nearby cultures.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:19 am
(October 12, 2012 at 12:16 am)Godschild Wrote: Leave it to you to leave out those who have a simple mind, God planned for all, even those who will reject Him.
So you're saying that by making the bible look as though it were written by the ignorant people of the day, he is tricking simple minded people into believing he doesn't exist? (And subsequently holding them accountable and sending them to hell?)
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:19 am
(October 12, 2012 at 12:16 am)Godschild Wrote: ...
Leave it to you to leave out those who have a simple mind, God planned for all, even those who will reject Him.
Everybody. Just look at what he just said. I think the funny center of my brain just overloaded.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:26 am
(October 12, 2012 at 12:13 am)Darkstar Wrote: Psalms 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved."
The earth moves.
2 Samuel 7:10-11 "And I will provide a place for my people Israel and will plant them so that they can have a home of their own and no longer be disturbed. Wicked people will not oppress them anymore, as they did at the beginning 11 and have done ever since the time I appointed leaders over my people Israel."
Out of it's place in relation to the sun.
They now have their land back, after 2000 years, just as the prophecy stated. It will remain theirs until Christ returns.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:36 am
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(October 12, 2012 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote: Out of it's place in relation to the sun.
This is implied where? Not to mention it can move, it just doesn't do so much. And what are these 'foundations'?
(October 12, 2012 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote: They now have their land back, after 2000 years, just as the prophecy stated. It will remain theirs until Christ returns.
The prophecy stated that they would never lose it in the first place. It also said 'wicked people will not oppress them anymore' but there is still anti-semitism.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 12:45 am
(October 12, 2012 at 12:16 am)Godschild Wrote: Leave it to you to leave out those who have a simple mind, God planned for all, even those who will reject Him.
That sounds like a made-up answer to the "Why does God design those who reject him" question.
The true beauty of a self-inquiring sentient universe is lost on those who elect to walk the intellectually vacuous path of comfortable paranoid fantasies.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 1:27 am
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(October 12, 2012 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote: Out of it's place in relation to the sun.
Ds Wrote:This is implied where? Not to mention it can move, it just doesn't do so much. And what are these 'foundations'?
The foundations, the power of God, the same power He used to create.
It is implied in the verse, that is to those who have sight.
(October 12, 2012 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote: They now have their land back, after 2000 years, just as the prophecy stated. It will remain theirs until Christ returns.
Ds Wrote:The prophecy stated that they would never lose it in the first place. It also said 'wicked people will not oppress them anymore' but there is still anti-semitism.
There are many kinds of anti-whatever in the world today, so your point does not stand.
Being that the prophecy is found in Samuel and the Israelites were already in there land, then the prophecy would only be a prophecy if it referred to the future. By the way they have not been oppressed since they have regained their land, as a matter of fact they have kicked the butts of all their enemies. Prophecy is doing well and will continue to.
(October 12, 2012 at 12:45 am)System of Solace Wrote: (October 12, 2012 at 12:16 am)Godschild Wrote: Leave it to you to leave out those who have a simple mind, God planned for all, even those who will reject Him.
That sounds like a made-up answer to the "Why does God design those who reject him" question.
I do not believe God designed anyone to reject Him, what I do know is God will use people He foreknew would reject Him. He will only do this after one has had a chance to receive Christ as savior.
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RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 12, 2012 at 1:36 am
(October 12, 2012 at 12:13 am)Darkstar Wrote: Psalms 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved."
The earth moves....
Does it?
Can you prove that without an absolute frame of reference?
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