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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 11:45 am
(March 1, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: (March 1, 2013 at 5:10 pm)A Theist Wrote: No. The child is a six year old boy...and six years old is too young for any child to make that kind of determination...IMO I think the parents are more behind this!
And what if it is proven that the parents aren't behind this?
What if it is proven that the child is the one making said assertions and the parents merely are not overriding what "she" says?
A thought experiment. Quote:What if it is proven that the child is the one making said assertions and the parents merely are not overriding what "she" says?
Seriously?! At six years old? That six year old boy is way too young to be making determinations about his sexuality...and the parents shouldn't be encouraging it.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 11:51 am
(March 2, 2013 at 11:45 am)A Theist Wrote: Seriously?! At six years old? That six year old boy is way too young to be making determinations about his sexuality...and the parents shouldn't be encouraging it.
To be honest, I quite agree here. Children shouldn't have to be dealing with things like religion, politics, sexuality, and all that sort of thing. Childhood years have their own particular problems.
If the child feels a particular manner on their own, then the parents should allow it, but enforcement or encouragement might not be the best long-term thing for them.
Although none of us know the full circumstances of what's going on, so it's not really for any of us to say unless we become intimately familiar with said circumstances.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2013 at 1:06 pm by Lachrymose.)
Possibly apropos of nothing (and a bit TMI to boot), but I started masturbating at age seven. I know several who started younger. Some much younger.
So to say six is too young for dealing with sexuality...I don't know about that.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 1:08 pm
(March 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm)Lachrymose Wrote: Possibly apropos of nothing (and a bit TMI to boot), but I started masturbating at age seven. I know several who started younger. Some much younger.
So to say six is too young for dealing with sexuality...I don't know about that.
Not on a personal level, I should have made that clear. I mean in the arena of debate and social politics. That's why I think the parents should leave them to do what they feel is right as opposed to actively enforcing or restricting them.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 1:36 pm
A long time ago (mid 80's) my union handled a case in which a male employee decided he wanted to be a woman and decided he was going to use the women's bathroom. This was in downtown Brooklyn where you get a certain rough element.
A bunch of women beat the crap out of him one day in the women's room. Problem solved. He, of course, was smart enough to tell the investigators that he could not remember anything.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 1:56 pm
(March 1, 2013 at 10:59 am)John V Wrote: If she says she's a girl, then she is a girl, regardless of biology...or at least that's what was argued to me in another thread.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 2:01 pm
(March 2, 2013 at 1:56 pm)EGross Wrote: (March 1, 2013 at 10:59 am)John V Wrote: If she says she's a girl, then she is a girl, regardless of biology...or at least that's what was argued to me in another thread.
Fine, then I'm Jesus Christ, because I say so. And nobody can say I am not!
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 2:08 pm
To the people who say it's not such a big deal for a little boy in a dress to use the girls bathroom because of the stalls and such. Why isn't it then 'not a big deal' for said little boy to use the boy's room. There are stalls in the boy's room. I mean we don't know much about this, but you can still almost guarantee that the parents are pushing this for some bizarre reason.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 2:29 pm
(March 2, 2013 at 1:56 pm)EGross Wrote: (March 1, 2013 at 10:59 am)John V Wrote: If she says she's a girl, then she is a girl, regardless of biology...or at least that's what was argued to me in another thread.
Fine, then I'm Jesus Christ, because I say so. And nobody can say I am not! Note that I said "to me," not "by me." You're actually ridiculing other atheists.
In that other thread I was criticized for saying that terms such as man, woman, male and female were tied to biology. Atheists say the same thing in this thread, and no complaints. Go figure.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Ok, so we got stupid athiests just like we got stupid believers! 
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