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Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Your sarcasm masks an underlying confusion.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 4:46 pm
I don't think he's being sarcastic.

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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 6:31 pm
No sarcasm, merely an observation.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Belief in biblical inerrancy isn't required to be Christian, its a relationship with God. However, if you think God is a quality of which many individuals have and humans can grow into, I think you're doing it wrong and your relationship isn't with any sort of existing God. If you pray to Mary thanking her for your salvation, you're probably doing it wrong (not many Catholics do this, but you never know). There are probably other things that are obvious, but I'm hungry.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 6:39 pm (This post was last modified: March 28, 2013 at 6:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
A relationship with god is required? Hmn, guess there are no true christians after all.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 6:41 pm
(March 28, 2013 at 6:37 pm)Tex Wrote: Belief in biblical inerrancy isn't required to be Christian, its a relationship with God. However, if you think God is a quality of which many individuals have and humans can grow into, I think you're doing it wrong and your relationship isn't with any sort of existing God. If you pray to Mary thanking her for your salvation, you're probably doing it wrong (not many Catholics do this, but you never know). There are probably other things that are obvious, but I'm hungry.

So you don't have to believe that the only way to salvation is through Jesus, to be a Christian?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm
"So you don't have to believe that the only way to salvation is through Jesus, to be a Christian?"

You have to believe salvation is through Jesus (who is God), yes, and that is the basis of the relationship with God. If you believe it was Simon bar-Kokhba that saves you, you're doing it wrong.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 8:19 pm
(March 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Tex Wrote: "So you don't have to believe that the only way to salvation is through Jesus, to be a Christian?"

You have to believe salvation is through Jesus (who is God), yes, and that is the basis of the relationship with God. If you believe it was Simon bar-Kokhba that saves you, you're doing it wrong.

What's your take on Romans 2 then?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 8:23 pm
(March 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Tex Wrote: If you believe it was Simon bar-Kokhba that saves you, you're doing it wrong.

What if it's...

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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 28, 2013 at 8:35 pm
"What's your take on Romans 2 then?"

I don't understand which part specifically you're referencing. If you'd elaborate for me, I'll answer the question.
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