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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:03 am
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Really? So the religions are being classified as a charity?
If I approach them with my new religion, could I get tax exemption for it? Say it's just me in it so far.
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:06 am
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No, but you can approach them with a new charitable organization (you may need more than just yourself for the incorporation though-depending on the state/fed gauntlet you're running - I hear AZ is nice) and then call it "The Church of Robs Big Sack of Goodies for Poor Motherfuckers".
I established an exempt organization in FL and am in the process of doing so in KY. In both cases there is oversight, a sponsor or committee (this is where religious affiliation can streamline the process). But other than that it's all about where the money comes from and then, whence it goes. You can, of course, make allowances for the staff..............which is where people usually get in trouble (pastor got a bentley, etc).
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:09 am
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Hmm, I see, thanks. Well I can work with that name.
How the fuck christianty qualifies as a charity is beyond me. Obviously it doesn't, or they would fill in the forms. God is scared of people seeing his lackey's finances?
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:11 am
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It's beyond many..but the sweetheart treatment that churches -do get- is in regards to how difficult it is to investigate and prosecute them when there is reason to suspect fraud or evasion. There are plenty of churches out there that follow the rules, that stick with the agreement they made (it's likely that nothing you imagine about a non-profit is strictly accurate.....they can turn a profit -w/ caveats-, they can pay their staff generously, they can own property...etc....). There are some that don't. It's the ones that don't which can be taxed and -need- to be taxed.
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:15 am
I'm gonna go investigate them with my chainsaw if things don't change soon.
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:26 am
(December 12, 2014 at 4:20 pm)Heywood Wrote: Impede is to obstruct and the intent of the First Amendment was to forbid the state from passing laws which unnecessarily obstruct speech, press, or religion. How would taxing churches obstruct religion? They tax the media companies that form the press-- does that obstruct the press?
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 8:39 am
Thing is, christians view persecution/obstruction to be the removal of the special treatment they have become accustomed to.
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 10:13 am
(December 13, 2014 at 8:39 am)robvalue Wrote: Thing is, christians view persecution/obstruction to be the removal of the special treatment they have become accustomed to.
yeah they want to be top dog but all religions are equal. except for christianity they always get special treatment.
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 10:40 am
(December 13, 2014 at 8:26 am)Tonus Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 4:20 pm)Heywood Wrote: Impede is to obstruct and the intent of the First Amendment was to forbid the state from passing laws which unnecessarily obstruct speech, press, or religion. How would taxing churches obstruct religion? They tax the media companies that form the press-- does that obstruct the press?
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RE: Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?
December 13, 2014 at 10:45 am
(December 13, 2014 at 10:40 am)Jenny A Wrote: (December 13, 2014 at 8:26 am)Tonus Wrote: How would taxing churches obstruct religion? They tax the media companies that form the press-- does that obstruct the press?
Indeed yes.
Funny how the government just contradicted its own self. i guess they could tax churches with a good enough reason.
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