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Indonesia to execute six drug offenders
#31
RE: Indonesia to execute six drug offenders
I think a death sentence for drug trafficking is too harsh. I would reserve this ultimate deterrent probably just for murder, and used at the judge's discretion in airtight cases only. I remember Ricky Gervais made a good point, that if you expand the death penalty past murder, you can get a situation where people are more likely to use deadly force to avoid capture or to remove witnesses because they're already facing the death penalty for a non-murder crime.
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#32
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Stricter punishment doesn't necessarily deter criminals. As if drug dealers were afraid of death.
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(January 17, 2015 at 9:26 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(January 17, 2015 at 9:21 pm)psychoslice Wrote: When in another country, we have to paly by their rules, if we don't then we shouldn't complain whatever the outcome is. They went into that country thinking they could fool that country, but who really is the fool ?.

Really?? Because it's another country the laws are somehow okay?


Yes.
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#35
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I'm for Indonesia's sovereignty, but I'd raise hell if there was a similar DP situation here. As well, it makes me want to boycott Indonesia somehow. I just hope this doesn't turn Aussies more racist against invividuals from Indonesia.
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(March 4, 2015 at 1:25 pm)c172 Wrote: I'm for Indonesia's sovereignty, but I'd raise hell if there was a similar DP situation here. As well, it makes me want to boycott Indonesia somehow. I just hope this doesn't turn Aussies more racist against invividuals from Indonesia.

I've said for years that I won't buy a Chinese-built guitar because I don't want to support a system that maintains prisoners of conscience and other injustices. I feel the same way about Indonesia.

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#37
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The thing about the death penalty is you have to weigh up all the problems with not executing airtight murder cases:

1) If they are released or they escape, needless innocents may die.

2) The tax payer has to fund them being kept alive.

3) The prisons are fuller so that there's less room for other crimes and sentences end up being reduced artificially.

4) Another reason probably. Not at my best today.

I know it's far from clear cut, but I come down slightly on the side of the DP not as punishment, but to protect society from those who have proven unsafe to ever be in it.
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Let's not forget that when fighting monsters, one must take care not to become a monster as well. Murdering murderers is still immoral.
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(March 4, 2015 at 2:39 am)psychoslice Wrote: Its their own fault, they knew what would happen and they took the gamble, and so they should pay for their gamble.

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