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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 5:25 pm
(March 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Drich Wrote: (March 3, 2016 at 9:24 pm)abaris Wrote: Satan, according to the narrative, is a moron. He starts out as one of god's favorite angels. So he has to know the omniscent and omnipotent stuff.
Who, not being totally mental, would rebell against such a being? And why would he play god's torturer afterwards? That's not in his best interest, but we already established that he's an idiot.
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One third of the angels decided heaven and god were not in their best interest and they were there. No cryptic scriptures, no wondering which is the right god or right religion, but actually there and they left anyway. That says volumes to me.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 5:55 pm
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Those who knew him best would rather risk his godly wrath, than put up with another minute of his "I'm the boss of everything, I -made- you, hur dur" schtick.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 6:14 pm
(March 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Drich Wrote:
Who indeed members of ATHEISTFORUMS.Org???
Kind of goes over your head, doesn't it? I inserted that little word narrative, which was kind of a giveaway on what I think of the story in general. I only took the freedom to analyze your totally logic tale of an angel rebelling against a being he knows to be omniscient. And I called him an idiot. I could have called him a Mary Sue, for that matter, but I guess you wouldn't have understood that either.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 6:17 pm
(March 3, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: 1. Men accidentally corrupted the Bible despite trying not to (example: compare the list in Ezra 2 with the list in Nehemiah 7)
2. Satan is more intelligent and more powerful than any man
3. Satan is motivated to corrupt the Bible
4. ???
5. Satan cannot even corrupt the Bible to the same degree that man has
If you admit that Satan actually has corrupted the Bible, then boy are you in trouble. So premise 4 must be, "God manually prevents Satan from corrupting the Bible."
But then why doesn't God also manually prevent scribes from corrupting the Bible, especially if we can agree that they are probably praying for such divine intervention (John 14:13)? This would not be a vulgar miracle, nor would it be the overriding of free will. I know that some Bibles will be corrupted by man - I could easily type one up myself and change some things - but why has God allowed the corruption of the text to get so bad that there is not a single perfect copy on earth? And how does this reconcile with Psalm 12:6-7?
Because god doesn't exist? 
Seriously though, for a god to even think using an ancient language to convey his intentions was a good idea, it really sounds like a bunch of chuckleheads that had no divine assistance made up a bunch of stories -and then claimed god told them what to write.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 7:06 pm
(March 4, 2016 at 1:34 pm)Drich Wrote: Also the bible never says we have 'free will.' that was a greek philosophy not a biblical one.
The Bible has a lot of passages about free will. Don't be a false prophet.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 10:40 pm
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 10:44 pm
(March 4, 2016 at 1:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (March 4, 2016 at 3:17 am)Godschild Wrote: 5.Satan is not allowed to mess with the written word of God, Satan is using someone here to try and corrupt God's word.
Where did you get this from?
I was speaking of 'NV'. If you're referring to God's word, do you really think that God would allow Satan to corrupt God's written law when Satan had to have permission to deal with Job.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 10:57 pm
Satan always seems to outsmart 'god.' And the best the fucktards car do is invent this passive-aggressive pussy of a god who sits on his ass and says "some day....oh yes, some day..."
God has a lot in common with Jeb Bush.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 4, 2016 at 11:12 pm
(March 4, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 4, 2016 at 1:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Where did you get this from?
I was speaking of 'NV'. If you're referring to God's word, do you really think that God would allow Satan to corrupt God's written law when Satan had to have permission to deal with Job.
I don't know. Neither God nor Satan are available for comment. All I have is you, who appears content to pull things from his backside.
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RE: Satan and errors in the Bible
March 5, 2016 at 2:37 am
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To me, the bible does heavily suggest that we do have free will. God interferes at several points and "hardens the hard" of people so that they will act a certain way.
Either they were going to act that way anyway and had no choice, in which case the story makes no sense and God is screwing around; or else they may have chosen to do something different had he not violated them with his God fingers.
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