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The problem with prayer.
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#271
RE: The problem with prayer.
August 5, 2016 at 8:16 am
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#272
RE: The problem with prayer.
August 5, 2016 at 10:58 am
(August 5, 2016 at 4:20 am)Godschild Wrote:
(August 4, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Step 1: assume it's from God
Step 2: assume that it's valid
Step 3: Prophet

  Step 1: Jesus said His people will know His voice

You're assuming Jesus was God.

(August 5, 2016 at 4:20 am)Godschild Wrote:   Step 2: Know it's valid because it's from God

Which is just an assumption, as pointed out.

(August 5, 2016 at 4:20 am)Godschild Wrote:   Step 3: Obey and be the servant for others

Vomit up a bunch of untrue shit on an atheist forum.
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#273
RE: The problem with prayer.
August 5, 2016 at 2:22 pm
(August 5, 2016 at 4:11 am)Godschild Wrote:
(August 4, 2016 at 4:16 am)Expired Wrote: Why does god pick and choose who he shows the truth to? I've heard nothing from him by no fault of my own, yet I'm going to burn.

 You have to come to Christ as savior and lord before God will reveal the deeper meaning of scripture. God will move the hearts of those who seriously seek the salvation He offers.

GC

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RE: The problem with prayer.
August 5, 2016 at 3:30 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2016 at 3:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 2, 2016 at 12:03 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The problem with prayer is it doesn't fucking work.

Aint that the truth.  If it worked an we didn't know why, or I didn't like the guy the "oomph" came from, who gives a shit?  Not me.  It works!

If praying things away worked I'd be a praying motherfucker. Until someone figures out the right words to say...I'm gonna continue., well, doing shit that might work....call me crazy....
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#275
RE: The problem with prayer.
August 5, 2016 at 3:55 pm
If praying to a particular God had any effect at all, it would be bloody obvious by now. Yet we see all religions equally failing to produce any results at all.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
August 11, 2016 at 2:12 pm (This post was last modified: August 11, 2016 at 2:12 pm by Nay_Sayer.)
(August 5, 2016 at 4:20 am)Godschild Wrote:
(August 4, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Step 1: assume it's from God
Step 2: assume that it's valid
Step 3: Prophet

  Step 1: Jesus said His people will know His voice
  Step 2: Know it's valid because it's from God
  Step 3: Obey and be the servant for others

GC

I feel bad for you jebus believers.  Forced slavery in life and then eternity.  A soberingly sad fate.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
August 11, 2016 at 2:15 pm
(August 5, 2016 at 3:55 pm)robvalue Wrote: If praying to a particular God had any effect at all, it would be bloody obvious by now. Yet we see all religions equally failing to produce any results at all.

Does not matter how many times it fails or how large the failure is they will continue to substitute hard work, effort and personal responsibility with clasped hands as they fervently ask the invisible sky unicorn to make it all better.
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#278
RE: The problem with prayer.
August 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm
(August 5, 2016 at 4:11 am)Godschild Wrote:
(August 4, 2016 at 4:16 am)Expired Wrote: Why does god pick and choose who he shows the truth to? I've heard nothing from him by no fault of my own, yet I'm going to burn.

 You have to come to Christ as savior and lord before God will reveal the deeper meaning of scripture. God will move the hearts of those who seriously seek the salvation He offers.

GC

I love how so many Christians assume that atheists were never Christian. That's true for some, but too many people grow up with Christianity for that to be widely true.

I was a Christian until I was 25 and I deeply believed in all of it. I regularly went to church, prayed, and studied the bible in depth. I did everything I was supposed to do and I wanted it. The problem is that the more I looked into it, the more I started to realize how much it resembled a massive pile of horse shit. So don't come here and tell us that we haven't done exactly what you're prescribing. Many of us have been there and we got nothing out of it.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
August 11, 2016 at 5:41 pm
(August 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(August 5, 2016 at 4:11 am)Godschild Wrote:  You have to come to Christ as savior and lord before God will reveal the deeper meaning of scripture. God will move the hearts of those who seriously seek the salvation He offers.

GC

I love how so many Christians assume that atheists were never Christian. That's true for some, but too many people grow up with Christianity for that to be widely true.

I was a Christian until I was 25 and I deeply believed in all of it. I regularly went to church, prayed, and studied the bible in depth. I did everything I was supposed to do and I wanted it. The problem is that the more I looked into it, the more I started to realize how much it resembled a massive pile of horse shit. So don't come here and tell us that we haven't done exactly what you're prescribing. Many of us have been there and we got nothing out of it.

I'll spare you the drama: GC will simply claim you were never really a Christian. When you insist you really were one, he'll double down on his claim. I've watched this program many, many times. The script never varies.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
August 11, 2016 at 5:43 pm
(August 11, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(August 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Jesster Wrote: I love how so many Christians assume that atheists were never Christian. That's true for some, but too many people grow up with Christianity for that to be widely true.

I was a Christian until I was 25 and I deeply believed in all of it. I regularly went to church, prayed, and studied the bible in depth. I did everything I was supposed to do and I wanted it. The problem is that the more I looked into it, the more I started to realize how much it resembled a massive pile of horse shit. So don't come here and tell us that we haven't done exactly what you're prescribing. Many of us have been there and we got nothing out of it.

I'll spare you the drama: GC will simply claim you were never really a Christian. When you insist you really were one, he'll double down on his claim. I've watched this program many, many times. The script never varies.
Yeah, that's what I'm expecting. I've heard that script from others before. It's not the most original line ever.
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