Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border

[Joods]

Shovels.

[Shell B]

I get around, over and through walls all the time. Just sayin'

[scoobysnack]

For those who support the wall...

This isn't a liberal vs conservative, Trump vs Anti Trump, anti immigration vs pro immigration thing. Just answer objectively with no biases for any particular "side" you feel you need to be on:

Do you really think spending all this money building this wall is a good, effective idea, all things considered?

If American workers are hired to build it, this would be a great investment to put Americans to work and the money would be reinvested in the local economies. Or Mexico could build it and put their citizens to work to help build their local economy. This is just the start of infrastructure spending and putting citizens back to work and building local economies.

It's ironic because Mexico is building their own wall to keep migrants from traveling through Mexico into the US, so not only would our wall help the US, it would help Mexico. It's a win win situation!

Mexico builds its own wall against migrants

Pressure builds for measures to stem flow of refugees from the south heading for US

https://www.ft.com/content/c316294a-7915...7294649b28

[Anomalocaris]

For those who support the wall...

This isn't a liberal vs conservative, Trump vs Anti Trump, anti immigration vs pro immigration thing. Just answer objectively with no biases for any particular "side" you feel you need to be on:

Do you really think spending all this money building this wall is a good, effective idea, all things considered?

If American workers are hired to build it, this would be a great investment to put Americans to work and the money would be reinvested in the local economies. Or Mexico could build it and put their citizens to work to help build their local economy. This is just the start of infrastructure spending and putting citizens back to work and building local economies.

It's ironic because Mexico is building their own wall to keep migrants from traveling through Mexico into the US, so not only would our wall help the US, it would help Mexico. It's a win win situation!

Mexico builds its own wall against migrants

Pressure builds for measures to stem flow of refugees from the south heading for US

https://www.ft.com/content/c316294a-7915...7294649b28

What a moron.

[Catholic_Lady]

For those who support the wall...

This isn't a liberal vs conservative, Trump vs Anti Trump, anti immigration vs pro immigration thing. Just answer objectively with no biases for any particular "side" you feel you need to be on:

Do you really think spending all this money building this wall is a good, effective idea, all things considered?

If American workers are hired to build it, this would be a great investment to put Americans to work and the money would be reinvested in the local economies. Or Mexico could build it and put their citizens to work to help build their local economy. This is just the start of infrastructure spending and putting citizens back to work and building local economies.

It's ironic because Mexico is building their own wall to keep migrants from traveling through Mexico into the US, so not only would our wall help the US, it would help Mexico. It's a win win situation!

Mexico builds its own wall against migrants

Pressure builds for measures to stem flow of refugees from the south heading for US

https://www.ft.com/content/c316294a-7915...7294649b28

To clarify, are you saying then that the wall is a good idea only because it would give people a job while they build it? If so, is it reasonable to pay billions to build useless things only so that people will get paid doing it?

[FatAndFaithless]

...Aren't the majority of illegal immigrants simply here on expired work visas or something of that type? Meaning they entered the country legally? How would a wall stop that?

And how would it stop...y'know, planes?

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, the wall-as-infrastructure.  Sure.....just as soon as we get the roads and bridges and grids handled....we can build a wall to separate nitwits from whatever portion of reality they fear.  

There's clearly no point in asking how the wall would work, no one cares - certainly not the trumpsters.  It's not meant, primarily, to keep people out, it's meant to keep them -in-..... their comfort bubble. There are barbarians raping and pillaging, so we need a wall, and whatever we have to do to get that wall is just what we have to do. We have to do something!

[I_am_not_mafia]

If American workers are hired to build it, this would be a great investment to put Americans to work and the money would be reinvested in the local economies. Or Mexico could build it and put their citizens to work to help build their local economy. This is just the start of infrastructure spending and putting citizens back to work and building local economies.

It's ironic because Mexico is building their own wall to keep migrants from traveling through Mexico into the US, so not only would our wall help the US, it would help Mexico. It's a win win situation!

Mexico builds its own wall against migrants

Pressure builds for measures to stem flow of refugees from the south heading for US

https://www.ft.com/content/c316294a-7915...7294649b28

To clarify, are you saying then that the wall is a good idea only because it would give people a job while they build it? If so, is it reasonable to pay billions to build useless things only so that people will get paid doing it?

Scoobysnack isn't exactly the brightest person on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of...ken_window

The parable of the broken window was introduced by Frédéric Bastiat in his 1850 essay Ce qu'on voit et ce qu'on ne voit pas (That Which Is Seen and That Which Is Not Seen) to illustrate why destruction, and the money spent to recover from destruction, is not actually a net benefit to society. The parable, also known as the broken window fallacy or glazier's fallacy, seeks to show how opportunity costs, as well as the law of unintended consequences, affect economic activity in ways that are "unseen" or ignored.

[Aroura]

If American workers are hired to build it, this would be a great investment to put Americans to work and the money would be reinvested in the local economies. Or Mexico could build it and put their citizens to work to help build their local economy. This is just the start of infrastructure spending and putting citizens back to work and building local economies.

It's ironic because Mexico is building their own wall to keep migrants from traveling through Mexico into the US, so not only would our wall help the US, it would help Mexico. It's a win win situation!

Mexico builds its own wall against migrants

Pressure builds for measures to stem flow of refugees from the south heading for US

https://www.ft.com/content/c316294a-7915...7294649b28

To clarify, are you saying then that the wall is a good idea only because it would give people a job while they build it? If so, is it reasonable to pay billions to build useless things only so that people will get paid doing it?

Exactly!  We could just employ people on taxpayer dollars to dig random ditches.  It would be about as useful.

Hey look, the Mexican President has cancelled the meeting with Trump http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38760671
Guess he won't be bullied into paying for this stupid project so easily.

[Divinity]

So we have money to spend on a useless wall... but we have no money to spend on healthcare, education, the arts, the environment, or grants for violence against women? Get the fuck out of here fuckwits.