What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[He lives]

The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

I'll enjoy making mince-meat of you either way,

With what? You have only got hypothesis, nothing more. DNA tells us a different story:

DNA is coded with a tremendous amount of information and it is not random information either. It is not there by happenstance nor could it be assumed that nature could put it there. Is nature an intelligent life form? If so perhaps it could code DNA but it isn't so. So if nature did not add the code to the DNA, who did?

[Amarok]

Thank you for your honest reply. 

So there's no evidence anywhere in the world where things create and work themselves into existence, except in nature, and you want me to believe that the things which are highly complex, far beyond human intelligence to make or think of, are exactly the opposite of all other facts - that they miraculously put millions of years into designing themselves?

I never said what your imposing on me in fact the total opposite . But nice try imposing opinions on me that i have not stated . I guess that's the only way you can win . By lying .

[Astreja]

The "information" in DNA is a post hoc anthropomorphism of mindless chemical compounds, viewed from our current position in the tree of life. We didn't get this way due to any sentient design -- we got this way because all of our ancestors, human and pre-human, had traits that allowed them to survive to breed.

We are fortunate enough to still be here, while 99.9% of species are now extinct. There is sufficient junk in our DNA to indicate trial-and-error over myriad generations, and sufficient flaws in the structure of the human body to indicate that the alleged "design" isn't particularly intelligent.

[Amarok]

With what? You have only got hypothesis, nothing more. DNA tells us a different story:

Nope we have the facts and DNA does not support you in the least .

DNA is coded with a tremendous amount of information and it is not random information either. It is not there by happenstance nor could it be assumed that nature could put it there. Is nature an intelligent life form? If so perhaps it could code DNA but it isn't so. So if nature did not add the code to the DNA, who did?

And now we move on to the tired conard of DNA information . The same trick over and over .

[drfuzzy]

[Amarok]

The "information" in DNA is a post hoc anthropomorphism of mindless chemical compounds, viewed from our current position in the tree of life.  We didn't get this way due to any sentient design -- we got this way because all of our ancestors, human and pre-human, had traits that allowed them to survive to breed.

We are fortunate enough to still be here, while 99.9% of species are now extinct.  There is sufficient junk in our DNA to indicate trial-and-error over myriad generations, and sufficient flaws in the structure of the human body to indicate that the alleged "design" isn't particularly intelligent.

Here here . He just repeating tired long refuted canards . The ID bag of tricks is a small one .

[Astreja]

Abiogenesis. I'm pretty sure that it will either be proven as true, or a better answer will be found.  That's the great thing about science - when something is shown to be wrong, it's a wonderful thing.  This means that we are closer to finding the real answers.

When something is shown to be wrong in science, it's because a better answer has been found.  (In the meantime, though, inaccurate or incomplete theories are usually functional enough to be quite useful despite their flaws.)

[Kitan Etos]

In religion when something is shown to be wrong, it becomes unreasonable apologetic time.

[Whateverist]

Nope man made objects don't . Things in nature do as all the evidence abundantly shows . And there is of course no reason to think a god is involved in nature in any form .

Thank you for your honest reply.
So there's no evidence anywhere in the world where things create and work themselves into existence, except in nature, and you want me to believe that the things which are highly complex, far beyond human intelligence to make or think of, are exactly the opposite of all other facts - that they miraculously put millions of years into designing themselves?

*My bold*

Would seeing be believing or does that require prayer?

[Amarok]

Thank you for your honest reply.
So there's no evidence anywhere in the world where things create and work themselves into existence, except in nature, and you want me to believe that the things which are highly complex, far beyond human intelligence to make or think of, are exactly the opposite of all other facts - that they miraculously put millions of years into designing themselves?

*My bold*

Would seeing be believing or does that require prayer?

oh no that's just his magic sky friends gearbox . You see even if there is no actual reason to believe god is behind it . That becomes proof that god is behind it . Because man made objects have someone behind it . There naturally occurring things must because reasons . Yup that's his twisted logic .