God's Love

[Rhizomorph13]

I just wonder if he is the top or bottom in that marriage to the eternal creator of the universe.

[The Grand Nudger]

Heterodox schismatics choice of imagery is illuminating,, lol.

[LadyForCamus]

I can demonstrate that my mother exists, and I can demonstrate that I know her. You can’t do either with god. Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?



Demonstrate it.


And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

I can demonstrate that my mother exists, and I can demonstrate that I know her.

Ok.  So how will you do that?

Innumerable ways, almost. I could build a near indisputable case for the existence of my mother from multiple forms of evidence including photos, live video/audio, birth certificates, medical records, genetic testing, in person meetings, etc. And, for your god?

Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?

Yep.  i could have linked you now to conversations with them.  Where you will actually see that both of us are correct.  They just know less than we do.  They do not believe that their "Almighty" is the Father I just told you about.  To them this is "blasphemy".  You will remember that this was also the reason why the Jews killed Jesus.  For saying God is now revealed as our Father.  Where we become born of Him and exactly the same as Him. 

Both of these groups have the same God as Christians.  They just know less.  And this is revealed when you ask them if their God loves them.  They will immediately say yes.  And when you ask them how they experience it then you will see the lack of the Love of the Father.

I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean. 

Demonstrate it.  And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

If you were sitting next to your mother and somebody else.  That person would accept your behavior as result of being in a Relationship with your Mother.  Maybe the time you were dating your behavior would be different with your mother in your presence then when you were totally alone.  So telling the person you were dating that your mother is the reason for your behavior when she is "not seen" can only be believed when that person knows you very well.  As well as your mother.   The same for me.  Those who know me well understand the behavior that comes from God as my Father that influences my behavior.  If they also know God as their Father.

Again, what strange behavior, exactly?

The problem with me came when God was no longer my Father but became my Husband.  Then my behavior changed.  And likewise in the times of Jesus those with the behavior of having God as their Father was a problem to those that didn't have that knowledge.  They only know God as their God and not their Father.  This change in me is difficult for the Children of God to grasp and they ban me just as they killed Jesus.  Only killing is no longer allowed.  But if this happened many years ago with me then i am sure I would have been killed too. 

The big persecution that Abaddon will take us in (if allowed) came when God became my Husband 20 years ago.  Meaning I had to introduce myself all over again.  As the Mother of God's Children.  As the Mother of all.  I didn't know how to do that.   So God did it.

lol, wut? Sorry, but I can’t tell if Poe or crazy.

[Abaddon_ire]

Ok.  So how will you do that?

Innumerable ways, almost. I could build a near indisputable case for the existence of my mother from multiple forms of evidence including photos, live video/audio, birth certificates, medical records, genetic testing, in person meetings, etc. And, for your god?

Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?

Yep.  i could have linked you now to conversations with them.  Where you will actually see that both of us are correct.  They just know less than we do.  They do not believe that their "Almighty" is the Father I just told you about.  To them this is "blasphemy".  You will remember that this was also the reason why the Jews killed Jesus.  For saying God is now revealed as our Father.  Where we become born of Him and exactly the same as Him. 

Both of these groups have the same God as Christians.  They just know less.  And this is revealed when you ask them if their God loves them.  They will immediately say yes.  And when you ask them how they experience it then you will see the lack of the Love of the Father.

I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean. 

Demonstrate it.  And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

If you were sitting next to your mother and somebody else.  That person would accept your behavior as result of being in a Relationship with your Mother.  Maybe the time you were dating your behavior would be different with your mother in your presence then when you were totally alone.  So telling the person you were dating that your mother is the reason for your behavior when she is "not seen" can only be believed when that person knows you very well.  As well as your mother.   The same for me.  Those who know me well understand the behavior that comes from God as my Father that influences my behavior.  If they also know God as their Father.

Again, what strange behavior, exactly?

The problem with me came when God was no longer my Father but became my Husband.  Then my behavior changed.  And likewise in the times of Jesus those with the behavior of having God as their Father was a problem to those that didn't have that knowledge.  They only know God as their God and not their Father.  This change in me is difficult for the Children of God to grasp and they ban me just as they killed Jesus.  Only killing is no longer allowed.  But if this happened many years ago with me then i am sure I would have been killed too. 

The big persecution that Abaddon will take us in (if allowed) came when God became my Husband 20 years ago.  Meaning I had to introduce myself all over again.  As the Mother of God's Children.  As the Mother of all.  I didn't know how to do that.   So God did it.

lol, wut? Sorry, but I can’t tell if Poe or crazy.

He thinks he is god's wife. So crazy.

And for anyone tempted to look at his FB, don't. He does FB stalking as well.

[Abaddon_ire]

For anyone bored enough...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/for...p?t=318847

It is obvious who I am and who he is in that thread and it is FUBB. It will really show anyone who and what JA really is.

And what is that?

Well, it is a long thread of 63 pages of forty posts per page, Right up until his inevitable banning, but I guess we all have some slack time these days.

Within he advocates for familial abuse, child abuse, alcohol abuse, and so on and on and on. He got barred by his wife and two daughters, his church, his entire town. For violence and abuse. The creche I mentioned? He volunteered there and got tossed for traumatising children. His hometown barred him because he took to the streets armed with a cudgel screaming and shouting and railing at all and sundry and threatening physical harm on street corners. He has a restraining order requiring 500m distance. That's right, half a kilometer.

From there he ended up operating a "shebeen" serving up cheap booze to desperate, impovirished alcoholics and used that as a means to manipulate them.

Likely, more detail I have forgotten.

What he is doing now is anyone's guess since that was three years ago, but I bet it will not be pretty.

However, in that venue, I was not free to speak my thought due to the forum rules. Here, I can be more forthright.

He is an insane cunt.

[Johanabrahams]

So tell me Johan. Are you still luring in "followers" with cheap booze? Or have you given up that scurrilous practice?

Why do you think i am busy with that?   You said I were chucked out of town?  Pushed away by everybody because i am "dangerous".

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 Nope.  I can not change.

Job 42
  10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.

   Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
   So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
   He had also seven sons and three daughters.
   And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Keren–happuch.
   And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
   After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons’ sons, even four generations.
   So Job died, being old and full of days.

Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil. The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

Job just suffered the consequences of listening to others about God.  He never took God serious in actually meeting with Him personally.   He was just in "religion". 

Job 42
 Then Job answered the Lord, and said,

  2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
   Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
   Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
   I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
   Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.


Religion is a killer.  I can link you to my killing by my religion.  But my links are blocked.  I thought they might see that they are in fact according to their rules just evidence.  Like here.  But seems they don't understand.   So you will have to ask for them and maybe that will help. 

In fact you will meet with it here with Abaddon with us.  And you will have a witness about how religion "killed me".

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Heterodox schismatics choice of imagery is illuminating,, lol.

Huh?


Actually honest conversation is a benefit for Relationships.  Seems you are not interested?  And if you are not then you are "off topic".

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I just wonder if he is the top or bottom in that marriage to the eternal creator of the universe.

With God there is no sex.  He doesn't bring forth His Children with lust.  He does it with Godly Love.

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If John Waters and Vincent Price could conceive of a child...

Huh?

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Preaching is awful.   Pastors ban me for these words.  For Lovingly helping them to stop their preaching.  You will just have to accept them because i am still in the 30 day period and I can not link you to actual cases to prove my point.    But I do think if you ask me for a link it will be tolerated.  So you are welcome.  But now in the absence of the "link" I can give you this.  I will for instance asked them to show me one preach of Jesus.  And then they get angry and I am out of the door.  For Lovingly correcting them, not with an opinion, but a case.  And the Power of the "case" that lifts it up to the level of a Judgment gets me the ban.

Mods  usually do it when I interfere with their "bossiness".   Let me use an example again.    If I preach and if the mod is wise then the mod will just leave me to preach and see how everybody disappear and leave me to preach on my own.  And then I will obviously just disappear too.  Creeping out at the back door.  Or say sorry and improve.  That is ruling in the Love and Wisdom of God.   If the mod is not wise then the mod will ban me of course.  This happens mostly because of their lack in Love and Wisdom going with it.  An they ban me for Lovingly assisting them in their "loveless job".  Wanting to help them to be part of their family that they are ruling over.  While they should have enjoyed Family Love and not ruling authority.

So I am not into preaching.  This is not the reason for my "bans".   I am sure Abaddon will agree with me.  I was never banned for "preaching".  But for Loving.  And seeing that he knows about the places of my bans he can of course just link us.  But of course he will try and cover up and will either not do it with excuses or link to wrong parts in the debating to prove his point.  Maybe making use of the opportunity that i can not link to "win" his case.

So this boils down to "demonstrating".

I’m asking you to make a well-reasoned and evidentially supported case for the existence of your god. Are you going to do that or not?

You want me to do it your way?

The superman way?

Just making covid disappear?

I am giving you God's Way.  Superman and Real God Love are miles apart. 

God's Love is to be a Father to us.  Giving birth to us to be His Kids.  Growing up in His Life as His Son, Jesus.  Enjoy Father Child Relationship.   The Greatest there is.  Where our Father died to give birth to Us as His Son, Jesus.  Saving us from dead Adam(human) life.  Because we died to that and are born again from God as His Son Jesus.

So you have all the evidence you need.  Just look at the Child and you will see the Father.  They look alike you know.

God is not selfishly loving the world like superman.  Keeping his "nice life" for himself.  Nope.  He is Loving the World as their Father.  And they can by His Son, Jesus.  So we are witnesses of God's Love.  Some take it and some don't. 

But because God Love you He will not make Himself known to you if you don't want Him for your Father.   Because that will be forcing His Love on you.  You have to accept the witnesses of those that know Him. 

In all of this it seems Abaddon will help a lot.  For all to understand more about God.  And then you are able to make a more "informed" decision.  To have Him for your Father or not.

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Innumerable ways, almost. I could build a near indisputable case for the existence of my mother from multiple forms of evidence including photos, live video/audio, birth certificates, medical records, genetic testing, in person meetings, etc. And, for your god?



I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean. 



Again, what strange behavior, exactly?


lol, wut? Sorry, but I can’t tell if Poe or crazy.

He thinks he is god's wife. So crazy.

And for anyone tempted to look at his FB, don't. He does FB stalking as well.

He thinks he is god's wife. So crazy.

You looked at my page.  Good.  So how on earth did you come up with the idea that I "think" I am God's Wife?

And for anyone tempted to look at his FB, don't. He does FB stalking as well.

Seeing that you saw it there you can just link us and we can see the evidence. 

As it is now standing here it is just slander.  Your opinion given as a Judgment but there is no case.  We as Christians know this because God teaches us to be Real Judges and Rulers.  So He teaches us to stay away from "slander" and learn to be a Real Judge.  You can learn too.

If you slander you acting a judge while you don't have the Ability from God yet.  So let my help you.  Here are the verses on God that will make you a Judge.

Mat. 19
 28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


And here are the verses on your "hypocrisy"

Mat. 7
 1  Judge not, that ye be not judged. 

  2  For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 
  3  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 
  4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 
  5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

I can give you some real life examples in links after the 30 day period.  We have to obey the ways of the humans in their lack of ruling in Wisdom and Love.  Like the worldwide handling of covid in fear and not Wisdom and Love.

[arewethereyet]

Quoting scripture on an atheist site.

Great tactic. It's worked so well for others in the past.

[LadyForCamus]

So tell me Johan. Are you still luring in "followers" with cheap booze? Or have you given up that scurrilous practice?

Why do you think i am busy with that?   You said I were chucked out of town?  Pushed away by everybody because i am "dangerous".

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Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil. The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

Job just suffered the consequences of listening to others about God.  He never took God serious in actually meeting with Him personally.   He was just in "religion". 

Job 42
 Then Job answered the Lord, and said,

  2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
   Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
   Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
   I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
   Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.


Religion is a killer.  I can link you to my killing by my  religion.  But my links are blocked.  I thought they might see that they are in fact according to their rules just evidence.  Like here.  But seems they don't understand.   So you will have to ask for them and maybe that will help. 

In fact you will meet with it here with Abaddon with us.  And you will have a witness about how religion "killed me".

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Heterodox schismatics choice of imagery is illuminating,, lol.

Huh?


Actually honest conversation is a benefit for Relationships.  Seems you are not interested?  And if you are not then you are "off topic".

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I just wonder if he is the top or bottom in that marriage to the eternal creator of the universe.

With God there is no sex.  He doesn't bring forth His Children with lust.  He does it with Godly Love.

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If John Waters and Vincent Price could conceive of a child...

Huh?

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I’m asking you to make a well-reasoned and evidentially supported case for the existence of your god. Are you going to do that or not?

I am giving you God's Way.

Unevidenced assertion.

God's Love is to be a Father to us.  Giving birth to us to be His Kids.  Growing up in His Life as His Son, Jesus.

Unevidenced assertions.

Where our Father died to give birth to Us as His Son, Jesus.

Unevidenced assertion.

Saving us from dead Adam(human) life.  Because we died to that and are born again from God as His Son Jesus.

Unevidenced assertion.

So you have all the evidence you need.

No...What I have is a bag full of unevidenced assertions, lol.

Just look at the Child and you will see the Father.

Who?

God is not selfishly loving the world like superman.  Keeping his "nice life" for himself.  Nope.  He is Loving the World as their Father.  And they can by His Son, Jesus.  So we are witnesses of God's Love.

unevidenced assertion.

But because God Love you He will not make Himself known to you if you don't want Him for your Father.   Because that will be forcing His Love on you.  You have to accept the witnesses of those that know Him.

Do I have to say it again? Congratulations on your impressively abject failure. That was some MK-level BS, right there, lol.

[Johanabrahams]

For anyone bored enough...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/for...p?t=318847

It is obvious who I am and who he is in that thread and it is FUBB. It will really show anyone who and what JA really is.

And what is that?

Well, it is a long thread of 63 pages of forty posts per page, Right up until his inevitable banning, but I guess we all have some slack time these days.

Within he advocates for familial abuse, child abuse, alcohol abuse, and so on and on and on. He got barred by his wife and two daughters, his church, his entire town. For violence and abuse. The creche I mentioned? He volunteered there and got tossed for traumatizing children. His hometown barred him because he took to the streets armed with a cudgel screaming and shouting and railing at all and sundry and threatening physical harm on street corners. He has a restraining order requiring 500m distance. That's right, half a kilometer.

From there he ended up operating a "shebeen" serving up cheap booze to desperate, impoverished alcoholics and used that as a means to manipulate them.

Likely, more detail I have forgotten.

What he is doing now is anyone's guess since that was three years ago, but I bet it will not be pretty.

However, in that venue, I was not free to speak my thought due to the forum rules. Here, I can be more forthright.

He is an insane cunt.

For anyone bored enough...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/for...p?t=318847

Seems you don't have Patience. You initially said you going to "wait" for while. But you just had to do it immediately. Ok. Just learning more about yourself and your inability to actually stick to what you said.

And I warned you.  But you didn't heed the warning.  I told you that the conclusion is in the Skeptic Society Forum.  And you didn't give that link.  So this is now you bringing your side of the story.  My side is absent.  And in bringing your side only you are just giving your own opinion.  Where I can not bring my evidence.  So I will just state it.

Within he advocates for familial abuse, child abuse, alcohol abuse, and so on and on and on. He got barred by his wife and two daughters, his church, his entire town. For violence and abuse.

Seems I am a pretty "violent" person.  Getting angry quickly.  And then solving my differences physically.   Beating up everybody physically.  Seems I should have been put in prison and not just given "barring orders"?  Which I will obviously not obey?

But what actually got me always so angry? And what are the actual evidence on who I beat up?  Seems the "pastor" that Abaddon spoke to didn't know?  Or was he just "backbiting".  Happy to have found an ally in Abaddon.  Too ignorant to know "backbiting" is evil.  And Abaddon ran with it.  Because Abaddon was in a corner in his forum.  And wanting to disgrace me there.

The creche I mentioned? He volunteered there and got tossed for traumatising children.

Strange? A "creche" taking in a "violent" person?  And then the "traumatised" children.  I wonder how he actually did it.  Because "traumatised" is general terminology.  Maybe the "pastor" he spoke to (I have an idea it was the head of the persecution against me) didn't have any real facts?  Just his opinions?  No wonder he got Abaddon to be "sacrosanct".  Hiding him away.  Because he was "backbiting".



Romans 1
 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

  29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
  30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
  31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
  32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


But we looked perfectly well into the detail of the "creche" in Skeptic Society Forum.  There was a person (Nicky) with law capabilities there.  We dissected the court orders and my actual actions with my "cudgel" in my "anger".  Which the pastor omitted.  And the question is this.  Why did he omit it?  Maybe he was just "backbiting" me? 

Catching poor Abaddon in his ignorance of "backbiting".  Changing "backbiting" to "sacrosanct"?

Link us please!  I can not.

His hometown barred him because he took to the streets armed with a cudgel screaming and shouting and railing at all and sundry and threatening physical harm on street corners.

Strange?  For 10 years 2000 - 2010 I roamed the streets of Robertson with a  "cudgel" and they just endured without doing anything?

I am wondering now by lack of being able to give my links and the evidence to the contrary how does this "cudgel" actually look?

Also strange that the same pastor didn't tell you about our actual physical meeting.  In Shoprite on the day just before Christimas in the year 2000.  I mean.  That is real evidence.  Maybe you should ask him the detail about that meeting and how the actual fight started, proceeded and ended.  Seems a nice piece of evidence for him . . . or me?  Why do you think he omitted it?

And why did you omit it.  You were in SGU when we investigated that actual piece of evidence. 

I put it under the heading of "Fake court orders".  Give us a link please! I can not.

Why i was not put in prison after "violently attacking the honorable pastor in Shoprite with my cudgel"?  Maybe he was so good to allow me to be home on Christmas?  He should not be embarrassed to speak about his "goodness"?

From there he ended up operating a "shebeen" serving up cheap booze to desperate, impovirished alcoholics and used that as a means to manipulate them.

Well Chimp has the detail there.  How I am actually living in my black community.  But as far as I can see he just came up with me being their Mother.  Taking them away from the "booze" and restoring their lives to what it should be.  As many of them witness there.  He would also have seen that I have no shebeen.  I don't need it.  God used the persecution to totally kill my human existence.  i have no wife, kids, family, friends, nation, possesions.  And therefor i don't need money and no work.  So i am helping the poor for free.   I am just helping in a Tavern because they are the people that took me into their house after I sold all my possessions and gave the money to the poor there in the black township of Nkqubela. 

And they were smuggling alcohol.  So i helped them to get a license for a real Tavern.  And they are very grateful to me because they are making lots of money and are now living a wealthy live.   And in their gratitude they don't chase me away for helping the people out of the Tavern.  Because it seems like the more i am helping out of the Tavern the more the "ill" are coming in.

To be restored.

What he is doing now is anyone's guess since that was three years ago, but I bet it will not be pretty.

Chimp got us the detail there.   He is filling that in.  Seems he is struggling to line up my real Life with your version of it?   Because what He has is totally different from what you describe.  But let us see how you two will be sorting yourself out now.  With your version of me and his version of me.

However, in that venue, I was not free to speak my thought due to the forum rules. Here, I can be more forthright.

Good one.  You admit to what I said there.  The lack of Wisdom and Love of the mods are just a barrier to good Relationships.  And here they have the problem of linking again which they didn't have in ISF.  It is just humans trying their best with rules.  But you know that my forum in Delphi and my Facebook page is ruled in Love with Wisdom.  There is never any bans.  No matter who says what.  All are just disciplined by Love in Wisdom.

He is an insane cunt.

Yep.  You have your opinion on me.  Anger for Loving you before you started with your "fight" against me. For helping you with your "divorce". And now the anger is ruling your intellect. To force you to use "name calling". Putting yourself in a "bad" light. But those reading your link will witness that I Loved you before you started "beating me up"  spiritually, during your process of beating me up spiritually and after you "beat me up spiritually".  And you never learned.  Because from the beginning in ISF until the end in SGU where you just disappeared and never came to Skeptic Society i Loved you as, my beloved Son, Jesus.   And you are still my beloved Son, Jesus.  To whom i am giving birth as your Mother.  With God as your Father.  I just hope the "bosses" here can handle your tantrums, my Son. And accept the discipline of the Mother and the Father towards their "naughty" Son.

Gal. 4
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

1 Cor. 4

 14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
  15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
  16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

Amazing Patience.  All capitals because of my Humbleness.  All the capitals is given me by my Father when I got born of Him.  Having now the same Character as He has.  Because I really did get that angry spirit towards my wife before I got born again.  And she got it towards me.  That was 30 years ago.  But even while we had it towards each other there was only one of us that really took a "cudgel" and used it on their partner.  You are welcome to ask the details from my wife.  So I hope that my changed life will help her change hers too.  Because while we were in the "creche" she never changed her "cudgel".  And i had to act.  For the sake of her and my children.  And I got persecuted for that. 

So having this totally different version now from that of Abaddon.  How are we going to get to the bottom of this?   Enjoy!  Maybe you can handle me for 63 pages of post like ISF did.  But in their format vs yours it should be 40 x 63 pages?

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How do I know? Easy our holy book 'The Mighty Tambi' details FSM endless love, For example Xhe has never condoned slavery.

Easy.  Like Father like Son.  Just try and fathom my Endless Love for my Son, Abaddon.  While his version of me derived from "backbiting" and Chimps version derived from witnessing my actual Life are miles apart.

[Johanabrahams]

 Nope.  I can not change.

Job 42
  10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.

   Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
   So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
   He had also seven sons and three daughters.
   And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Keren–happuch.
   And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
   After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons’ sons, even four generations.
   So Job died, being old and full of days.

Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil. The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

Why would I change when God's discipline for a wrong life just allows for more blessings at the end of my "disciplining"?  Should I be scared of "discipline"?  Be like you?  Not knowing it is just necessary discipline for a wrong life from my Father?

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil.

God just used the devil to reach His purpose.  Disciplining His Child to have a Greater Relationship with His Dad.  The child of a Father should not "hear" from its Father from other people.  He should speak to His Father Personally.  And Job was happy because of His Discipline in Love and Wisdom from His Father.

Job 42
 [/size] Then Job answered the Lord, and said,
  [size=undefined]2[/size] I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
  [/size] Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
  [/size] Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
  [/size] I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
  [/size] Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Job just reaped the consequences of having a "religion".  Just like me.  He has been restored into human life again because what is now a possibility didn't exist in his times.  And i am not.  I have been given a Greater Life than I had before.  I had 2 daughters.  Now I have hundreds.  With Abaddon included of course.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

Your evidence is sadly wanting.  Like Father like Son.  God used bad consequences for the good of His Children.  As is witnessed here and in my Life too.  

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

I agree.  I was also destroyed for lack of speaking to God on a Personal Basis.  I went to study theology/religion And I created for myself a human being life by obeying the evil spirit of religion just like Job.    And the consequences of not asking my Father took me through much pain and despair. 

But now I am reaping the benefit.  And you too.  Because now I am Holy.  Just like God your Father.  Having nothing to which everybody in the world takes second place.  Because if i still had a human life then you would have stand last in the row.  After my wife and kids and family and friends and work and money. 

Now you are everything to Me.  If you can see.

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Outsider test.  Posts like these come off as completely nuts.

Nuts are nice.  Specially if they come with chocolate.

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To judge me as an "evil lunatic" without evidence is what we call "hypocrisy" in the Word of God.  The reason being is that it is just your opinion. As it is standing now.  You provided no evidence to make it the judgment you want it to be.

Well, to be honest I also thought you were a lunatic and the evidence for it is the stuff you write, like that God gave birth to you and that there are evil babies and some other stuff. Now, I know you quoted Bible to "prove" how there are a lot of evil babies, but that doesn't matter much because anyone can quote Bible to say what ever he wants it to say and you want it to say that babies are evil.

Well, to be honest I also thought you were a lunatic and the evidence for it is the stuff you write,

Yep.  I agree with you. From intellectual point of view this is just the only explantation.  But don't worry.  It has always been like that.  You are just part of the intellectual life of humans.

John 10
 [/size] ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
  [/size] And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
  [/size] Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

like that God gave birth to you

Yep.  Difficult to comprehend.  But all the "Children of God" in the religions are "born of Him".  There is just no other way to become a Child of God with God as your Father.  But because of their strife vs one another they don't grow much in their understanding and thus fumble a lot when you speak to them from your point of view.  But don't judge the Babies of God too harshly.  They are just Babies.  God Loves His Babies too.  They are rather cute.  

and that there are evil babies and some other stuff.

Yep.  We believe evil is inbred.  That is why they are so selfish and stubborn as babies.  But we still love them.  Even when they grow up and start persecuting their own family for believing or not believing.

Mat. 10
  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

I mean.  I experience all of  this and have to hate the evil that is doing it. 

Luke 14
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

But not the person for being deceived. 

Mat. 5
  38  ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 

  39  But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 
  40  And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him havethy cloke also. 
  41  And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 
  42  Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 
  43  ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 
  44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 
  45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 
  46  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 
  47  And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 
[size=undefined]  48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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Now, I know you quoted Bible to "prove" how there are a lot of evil babies,

yep.  Not just quoting it but also explaining it.

but that doesn't matter much because anyone can quote Bible to say what ever he wants it to say and you want it to say that babies are evil.

And there is more.  It is actually seen in every day life too.  And in mine.