Is Islam A Death Cult?

[Leonardo17]

I’m not sure I’m getting your point this time. You forget I’m not a native. In fact I’m as non-American as “an English man in New-York”
 
Still: Personal convictions are always different. In fact, we are different.
 
One example is the occult: I don’t visit astrologers, I never spent a dime on coffee readings but another famous author from the 70’s is Carlos Castaneda. He wrote books on Native American occultism with the use of herbs to gain extra sensorial perceptions. İn his book he meets a shaman who teaches him the old shamanic secrets. He does things like astral projections, he communicates telepathically, and he transforms himself into a crow (like the tale of witches who were able to transform themselves into cats etc.).
 
So I happen to believe in these things too.
 
Another issue is extraterrestrial life. A straight scientist will simply say that this is not possible. Why? – Because nothing is faster than the speed of life which is 300,000 km/s. So even with a sophisticated spaceship like that, we cannot get to the nearest star without spending 5 years in the interstellar void. So I know it’s crazy, but I am part of those who believe that things like the movie called “Contact” (1997 – Jodie Foster) could happen at some point in our history.
 
So I am basically sharing my own viewpoint on these religious issues because my point of view is that the more “dangerous” parts of religious communities around the world are adapting to a world that is increasingly rational and secular so in many cases they are even using science to defeat science. You must have heard of the schools for teenagers in the US where they reeducate teenagers who have a different sexual orientation because “God says No” and in the end they cause these kids to commit suicide, develop mental illnesses or worse, become complete liars and hypocrites like their parents.
 
So the reason why I am doing what I am doing, is to better respond to the claims of these “dangerous” people. Because, according to some Yoga teachings, we are in an age of increasing energies. So the energy of people who are smart and rational is increasing. But the energy of “low-energies” is also increasing. So they are going to portray more extreme and irrational actions in the future. Like the MAGA movement + storming of the Capital or anti-abortion measures in Poland. Do you know that several women died in Poland (which is a EU country) because doctors refused to terminate their pregnancies?

So I’m ok with anyone who sees mere uselessness in all religious teachings (including new-age teachings). Yet I have adopted a method which involves a particular type of approach toward religious teaching which itself is allowing me to respond to all the arguments issues by these “low-energies” in a much more efficient manner.
 
Just a quote from one of my social media post from today:
Stanger: - You must vote for God, the Prophet and the Holy Book.
Me: - You must vote for God, the Prophet and the Holy Book you S.o.B.
 
So that’s how I’m ticking and there isn’t much I can do about it.

[The Grand Nudger]

I’m not sure I’m getting your point this time. You forget I’m not a native. In fact I’m as non-American as “an English man in New-York”
 
Still: Personal convictions are always different. In fact, we are different.

We're not going to find universal religious truth in the ways that we're different, obvs.  

 
One example is the occult: I don’t visit astrologers, I never spent a dime on coffee readings but another famous author from the 70’s is Carlos Castaneda. He wrote books on Native American occultism with the use of herbs to gain extra sensorial perceptions. İn his book he meets a shaman who teaches him the old shamanic secrets. He does things like astral projections, he communicates telepathically, and he transforms himself into a crow (like the tale of witches who were able to transform themselves into cats etc.).
 
So I happen to believe in these things too.

Another issue is extraterrestrial life. A straight scientist will simply say that this is not possible. Why? – Because nothing is faster than the speed of life which is 300,000 km/s. So even with a sophisticated spaceship like that, we cannot get to the nearest star without spending 5 years in the interstellar void. So I know it’s crazy, but I am part of those who believe that things like the movie called “Contact” (1997 – Jodie Foster) could happen at some point in our history.
 

Your sacred reality doesn't appear to be exhausted by the abrahamic god.  Your god is in there, sure, but so is this other stuff.  Does islam exhaust sacred reality?  Is it's god a universally applicable idea?

More fundamentally, is the answer to the question of how many gods there are and who those gods prophets are actually relevant to universal religious truth in the first place?

-As an example. I think a candidate for universal religious truth is the moral import of healing. Tell me, what does the number of gods and the name of prophets have to do with that? What is allahs relationship to witchcraft?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I’m not sure I’m getting your point this time. You forget I’m not a native. In fact I’m as non-American as “an English man in New-York”
 
Still: Personal convictions are always different. In fact, we are different.
 
One example is the occult: I don’t visit astrologers, I never spent a dime on coffee readings but another famous author from the 70’s is Carlos Castaneda. He wrote books on Native American occultism with the use of herbs to gain extra sensorial perceptions. İn his book he meets a shaman who teaches him the old shamanic secrets. He does things like astral projections, he communicates telepathically, and he transforms himself into a crow (like the tale of witches who were able to transform themselves into cats etc.).
 
So I happen to believe in these things too.
 
Another issue is extraterrestrial life. A straight scientist will simply say that this is not possible. Why? – Because nothing is faster than the speed of life which is 300,000 km/s. So even with a sophisticated spaceship like that, we cannot get to the nearest star without spending 5 years in the interstellar void. So I know it’s crazy, but I am part of those who believe that things like the movie called “Contact” (1997 – Jodie Foster) could happen at some point in our history.
 
So I am basically sharing my own viewpoint on these religious issues because my point of view is that the more “dangerous” parts of religious communities around the world are adapting to a world that is increasingly rational and secular so in many cases they are even using science to defeat science. You must have heard of the schools for teenagers in the US where they reeducate teenagers who have a different sexual orientation because “God says No” and in the end they cause these kids to commit suicide, develop mental illnesses or worse, become complete liars and hypocrites like their parents.
 
So the reason why I am doing what I am doing, is to better respond to the claims of these “dangerous” people. Because, according to some Yoga teachings, we are in an age of increasing energies. So the energy of people who are smart and rational is increasing. But the energy of “low-energies” is also increasing. So they are going to portray more extreme and irrational actions in the future. Like the MAGA movement + storming of the Capital or anti-abortion measures in Poland. Do you know that several women died in Poland (which is a EU country) because doctors refused to terminate their pregnancies?

So I’m ok with anyone who sees mere uselessness in all religious teachings (including new-age teachings). Yet I have adopted a method which involves a particular type of approach toward religious teaching which itself is allowing me to respond to all the arguments issues by these “low-energies” in a much more efficient manner.
 
Just a quote from one of my social media post from today:
Stanger: - You must vote for God, the Prophet and the Holy Book.
Me: - You must vote for God, the Prophet and the Holy Book you S.o.B.
 
So that’s how I’m ticking and there isn’t much I can do about it.

(Bold mine)

Castaneda was a fraud. If you choose to believe in occult nonsense, that’s your own lookout. But don’t believe in it because a gifted confidence trickster told you so.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

I think it's a product of innate religious impulse (or compulsion) that the most common response to discovering that the religion of your birth was fraudulent (one way or another)...is to immediately seek out some other fraud who/which will reassert the initial content in a different context.

Deeply motivated reasoning, if it even rises to the occasion of that designation.

[Leonardo17]

[Leonardo17]

(Bold mine)

Castaneda was a fraud. If you choose to believe in occult nonsense, that’s your own lookout. But don’t believe in it because a gifted confidence trickster told you so.

Boru

- Yes. I just saw that on Wikipedia.
 
Well. Believe me when I say that I didn’t get the message of the whole story anyway. As I said I’M not really into these things

[Leonardo17]

I think it's a product of innate religious impulse (or compulsion) that the most common response to discovering that the religion of your birth was fraudulent (one way or another)...is to immediately seek out some other fraud who/which will reassert the initial content in a different context.

Deeply motivated reasoning, if it even rises to the occasion of that designation.

I’m not saying this is impossible. I’m still a human being, I’ve had erroneous convictions before, I might be having them now.
 
But my point is that I never claimed that the earth is 5000 year old. This is not how I operate. fActual evidence / science / reason has always the upper hand.
 
Ex: I believe in Ayurvedic medicine too. But if I was to do such a thing I would check with a regular doctor to see if it would be harmless in my situation.
 
But it’s a good thing to be vigilant about these things. I’m not one of them. But there are still people in this world (in the Western world) who believe in things like exorcism although we know for sure that psychotic situation can be cured with a range of very efficient psychiatric drugs.
 
So yes, I think these debates must take place at all times

[The Grand Nudger]

We're not going to find universal religious truth in the ways that we're different, obvs.  


Your sacred reality doesn't appear to be exhausted by the abrahamic god.  Your god is in there, sure, but so is this other stuff.  Does islam exhaust sacred reality?  Is it's god a universally applicable idea?

More fundamentally, is the answer to the question of how many gods there are and who those gods prophets are actually relevant to universal religious truth in the first place?

-As an example.  I think a candidate for universal religious truth is the moral import of healing.  Tell me, what does the number of gods and the name of prophets have to do with that?  What is allahs relationship to witchcraft?

1) As I told you I believe in a singular reality. There is just one Universe which is being governed by the rules of science.
 
I cannot say straight way that the God of Islam is a universal reality. The reason for this is that there are different interpretations of Islam (and of any other religion on earth).

That is not the reason, or even any reason, that you can't say islam is universal reality.

Religion doesn’t work like science. In science you can either prove something or you cannot prove it. It’s very simple. So there are types of religion. And therefore there are differences.

Also not even in the wheelhouse of universal religious truth.  The reason that you can;t say that islam is universal reality is not because there are different interpretations or because islam isn't a science. 
 

My point or argument is that, there is a Singular Reality that is being pointed at by all main religious traditions in this world. My personal journey has led me to this conclusion.

Completely and laughably wrong.  All this tells me is that your journey has been mere steps, if at all, from where you began. This, like islam, says nothing of universal religious truth.

[Ferrocyanide]

[Leonardo17]