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The real message of Islam.
#41
RE: The real message of Islam.
ummmm..

http://sunnah.com/urn/36400
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#42
RE: The real message of Islam.
(November 10, 2015 at 6:36 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(November 10, 2015 at 6:32 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: I can assure you I don't.

But. what you mentioned about Mohammed peace be upon him, being a pedophile, is actually a Hadith (the same that Sunnah use to marry little kiddos !)

Specifically in (Bukhari, Hadith number 3894).



So, that means there is no difference between me and a Sunni.......like none?

You're really fucking bad at this.
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#43
RE: The real message of Islam.
You believe the same sources they believe in. You're like..brothers !
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#44
RE: The real message of Islam.
(November 10, 2015 at 6:45 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: You believe the same sources they believe in. You're like..brothers !

Fuck me, you have the patter of a 5 year old...which probably makes you very attractive to your Muslim brothers.
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#45
RE: The real message of Islam.
It's not ethical to believe in the Hadiths YOU WANT TO BELIEVE, and neglect other Hadiths that you don't like..

For example..if you believ Aisha was 8 (based on a Hadith)..you should also believe that the moon was cracked during Mohammed's life !
Given that the moon crack incidend, was mentioned in a Hadith by Bukhari .

Why believe what Aisha said about her age in the Hadith, but neglect what others said about the moon crack ?
Don't you believe 'Bukhari" ?
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#46
RE: The real message of Islam.
(November 10, 2015 at 6:51 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's not ethical to believe in the Hadiths YOU WANT TO BELIEVE, and neglect other Hadiths that you don't like..

For example..if you believ Aisha was 8 (based on a Hadith)..you should also believe that the moon was cracked during Mohammed's life !
Why believe what Aisha said about her age in the Hadith, but neglect what others said about the moon crack ?

You argue like a 4 year old.  Believing one part of a story does not mean I believe all of it, or indeed any more of it.  In fact, whether it's true or not is irrelevant, the real point is that many muslims do believe it.

Your prophet, was a war mongering paedophile, which makes it quite understandable that a large number of his followers are war mongering paedophiles.
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#47
RE: The real message of Islam.
The Hadiths are compilations of things people reported that Muhammad said and did, yes?
Could not one Hadith, one such saying, be accurate and another be completely made up? And yet, they both made it into the compilation used by the Sunni, or the other compilation used by the Shiite? Both compilations could hold things which can be believed at face value, and things which are too extraordinary to accept as trustworthy, or, to use the better word, historical.

Islam, like Christianity, lacks in the historicity part.
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#48
RE: The real message of Islam.
(November 10, 2015 at 7:01 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:
(November 10, 2015 at 6:51 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's not ethical to believe in the Hadiths YOU WANT TO BELIEVE, and neglect other Hadiths that you don't like..

For example..if you believ Aisha was 8 (based on a Hadith)..you should also believe that the moon was cracked during Mohammed's life !
Why believe what Aisha said about her age in the Hadith, but neglect what others said about the moon crack ?

You argue like a 4 year old.  Believing one part of a story does not mean I believe all of it, or indeed any more of it.  In fact, whether it's true or not is irrelevant, the real point is that many muslims do believe it.

Your prophet, was a war mongering paedophile, which makes it quite understandable that a large number of his followers are war mongering paedophiles.

Just like Sunnies and Shia !
They also believe 'some hadiths" and neglect the rest !!!

then again, it's not ethical to point fingers without a trusted source , so are you saying, that bukhari is a trusted source ??
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#49
RE: The real message of Islam.
I can believe there was a pedophile called Mohammed (as many Muslims claim) without also believing a bunch of ridiculous magic stuff he supposedly did.

It's typical binary religious thinking to insist accounts be either totally true or totally false.
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#50
RE: The real message of Islam.
(November 10, 2015 at 7:22 am)pocaracas Wrote: The Hadiths are compilations of things people reported that Muhammad said and did, yes?
Could not one Hadith, one such saying, be accurate and another be completely made up? And yet, they both made it into the compilation used by the Sunni, or the other compilation used by the Shiite? Both compilations could hold things which can be believed at face value, and things which are too extraordinary to accept as trustworthy, or, to use the better word, historical.

Islam, like Christianity, lacks in the historicity part.

The problem is, the majority of Muslims consider that contradicted history a "sacred one".
Muslims followed the footsteps of Christians; step by step.
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