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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 10:59 am
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(December 5, 2018 at 9:29 am)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 9:26 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Fundamental rookie error. There was no "before" space-time. The statement is meaningless.
It can't be helped due to limitation of language.
The point is the universe came from nothing. The universe was preceded by its non-existence
There I used the word preceded
You have no clue, (and neither does science) if the universe "came from nothing", or even if it "came from" .... anything ... or "at all'.
Roger Penrose, (Stephen Hawking's friend ... cosmologist at Oxford) wrote "Cycles of Time" in which he thinks the universe always existed.
The Big Bang is the inflationary epoch ... not the "beginning". "Coming from" is a temporal reference, (as discussed by Dr. Sean Carroll in his debate with WLC).
You cannot employ a temporal reference in the absence of time. All you can do is say nothing ... and that's all you know, and that's all we know right now.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:01 am
(December 5, 2018 at 10:30 am)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 10:21 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Still waiting for that citation, buttnose.
Lift the epicanthic folds over your eyes and maybe you'll see them
Okay.
Nope, still not seeing them, buttnose. Maybe it's because you didn't provide any.
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:06 am
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(December 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 10:53 am)Jehanne Wrote: Most cosmologists are atheist:
Why (Almost All) Cosmologists are Atheists
So what it's immaterial
Bingo! It's not a determining factor. They could all be chickens, and it wouldn't hold any relevance because the study of cosmology isn't bound by their religion (or being a farm animal), and neither are their findings. Atheism is an opinion and a religion, nothing more. I can believe its constructs for whatever reason I choose and call myself an "atheist" or not believe them at all, and still be considered an "atheist." At the end of the day, it's just an opinion about "god(s) vs no god."
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:07 am
Nope.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:07 am
(December 5, 2018 at 11:01 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 10:30 am)Cherub786 Wrote: Lift the epicanthic folds over your eyes and maybe you'll see them
Okay.
Nope, still not seeing them, buttnose. Maybe it's because you didn't provide any.
Maybe you're just plain stupid chinky
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:41 am
(December 5, 2018 at 11:07 am)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 11:01 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Okay.
Nope, still not seeing them, buttnose. Maybe it's because you didn't provide any.
Maybe you're just plain stupid chinky
Sez the man who thought a Yorkshire pudding was a pastry. Go and fuck yourself Cherub.
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:43 am
(December 5, 2018 at 11:07 am)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 11:01 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Okay.
Nope, still not seeing them, buttnose. Maybe it's because you didn't provide any.
Maybe you're just plain stupid chinky
Yeah, maybe I am at the bottom of the ladder, but with you around, I'll never be lonely!
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 11:52 am
(December 5, 2018 at 11:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 11:07 am)Cherub786 Wrote: Maybe you're just plain stupid chinky
Yeah, maybe I am at the bottom of the ladder, but with you around, I'll never be lonely!
Loser the only thing you're face is at the bottom of is a yellow butt
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm
(December 5, 2018 at 11:52 am)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 11:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Yeah, maybe I am at the bottom of the ladder, but with you around, I'll never be lonely!
Loser the only thing you're face is at the bottom of is a yellow butt
Usually, I pray for the lost but FSM spoke to me and told m not to waste my sacred words.
However, if I were to give a personal assessment I'd put you lower than the residue in raw sewage pipes.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 5, 2018 at 12:08 pm
(December 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: (December 5, 2018 at 11:52 am)Cherub786 Wrote: Loser the only thing you're face is at the bottom of is a yellow butt
Usually, I pray for the lost but FSM spoke to me and told m not to waste my sacred words.
However, if I were to give a personal assessment I'd put you lower than the residue in raw sewage pipes.
I'd put you lower than the yeast in your mom's infection
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