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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:01 am
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(July 20, 2012 at 12:36 am)cratehorus Wrote: (July 19, 2012 at 11:55 pm)goddamnit Wrote: Also, self-described "feminists" are all too often just haters of men, and I want to separate myself from them.
SO what political philosophy, are you saying is best? Best for who? Best for you? Best for me? Best for my family? Best for America (the country I live it)? Best to maximize the sum of utility of all humans? Best to maximize the sum of utility of all sentient beings on Earth?
I contemplate everything on a case-by-case basis, and in some cases, the economics is so complex I may never get the facts I need to know what the consequences of a policy are. My philosophy is a hybrid between individualism and consequentialism.
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:03 am
(July 20, 2012 at 1:01 am)goddamnit Wrote: (July 20, 2012 at 12:36 am)cratehorus Wrote: SO what political philosophy, are you saying is best? Best for who? Best for you? Best for me? Best for my family? Best for America (the country I live it)? Best to maximize the sum of utility of all humans? Best to maximize the sum of utility of all sentient beings on Earth?
What is the best one overall for the whole world?
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:17 am
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(July 20, 2012 at 1:03 am)cratehorus Wrote: (July 20, 2012 at 1:01 am)goddamnit Wrote: Best for who? Best for you? Best for me? Best for my family? Best for America (the country I live it)? Best to maximize the sum of utility of all humans? Best to maximize the sum of utility of all sentient beings on Earth?
What is the best one overall for the whole world? I am not trying to dance around your question here, but I think your question might already assume an answer. If your criteria for "best" is that which maximizes the sum of utility of all sentient beings on Earth, then that is a form of utilitarianism.
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:20 am
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(July 20, 2012 at 12:56 am)aleialoura Wrote: (July 19, 2012 at 11:14 pm)cratehorus Wrote: Well, chances are, if you "classify" yourself as that, it means you think it's best. What is your definition of...... progressive liberal socialism........ and why do you love it, so???
I envision a socialist democracy. A liberal, forward thinking government.
What??? you want socialist democracy? What is "socialist democracy"?................ Well, what if the "democracy" doesn't desire socialism? "Liberal" and "Forward thinking" are concepts, that are just as vague.... "liberal forward thinking" could be defined as puritanical christianity, to the native americans around 1492... yes, agreed? SO what is your definition of progressive liberal socialism????
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:24 am
(July 20, 2012 at 1:20 am)cratehorus Wrote: (July 20, 2012 at 12:56 am)aleialoura Wrote: I envision a socialist democracy. A liberal, forward thinking government.
What??? you want socialist democracy? What is "socialist democracy"?................ Well, what if the "democracy" doesn't desire socialism? "Liberal" and "Forward thinking" are concepts, that are just as vague.... "liberal forward thinking" could be defined as puritanical christianity, to the native americans around 1492... yes, agreed? SO what is your definition of progressive liberal socialism????
You fucking heard me, scro. Do I look like wikigooglefuckingpedia to you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism
I guess so.
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:30 am
If we're to define it in terms such as you suggested in your opening post, it seems as if your intent is to blitz a person with demands to rigidly define whatever term they choose. If you wanted people to enumerate their beliefs in detail you should have clarified this at the start instead of offering simple examples you don't actually seem to want.
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 1:41 am
(July 20, 2012 at 1:30 am)Ryantology Wrote: If we're to define it in terms such as you suggested in your opening post, it seems as if your intent is to blitz a person with demands to rigidly define whatever term they choose. If you wanted people to enumerate their beliefs in detail you should have clarified this at the start instead of offering simple examples you don't actually seem to want.
No i'm trying to covert you all to totalitarian communism. I think it's the best system and I plan too covert all your chidren to atheism! No fuck (wait fuck wrong group) I mean MONEY!!! Let's get rid of all the world's money!
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 20, 2012 at 3:44 am
Democracy and pluralism.
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 25, 2012 at 10:23 am
(July 20, 2012 at 3:44 am)apophenia Wrote:
Democracy and pluralism.
why do you love democracy? don't you see, how what's best for the top 51% isn't always best? what about the dangers of mobocracy?
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RE: What political philosophy is best
July 25, 2012 at 10:26 am
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