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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Beccs Wrote:
Not that video again, the fact that Dawkins is in it, shows the clear bias.
Quoting Mr. Krauss from 40:46 of the video:
Quote:Why is there something rather than nothing? The answer is, there had to be. If you have nothing in quantum mechanics, you'll always get something.
Why didn't i think of that one
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm
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(November 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Beccs Wrote: Already given, you just don't want to accept.
And I pointed out how your explanation was nonsense by the simple fact that a single guy was able to accomplish the same thing the ancient Egyptians did.
Just for the record, please explain how one guy can cut, transport and lift a 30 ton stone.
How HE did it, I don't know. Do some research for yourself.
We have the evidence for how the Egyptians did it, from both direct evidence and their own writings.
When I gave that answer, which was the original subject, you then moved the goalposts and mentioned American pyramids, which were not part of the original conversation. Then you moved it again about some guy building his own little stone structure.
My original answers stand. No more acceptance of the movement of goalposts (a common religious ploy when they don't want to accept the answers given).
Moving on.
(And don't try that other religious ploy of then declaring victory).
(November 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Beccs Wrote:
Not that video again, the fact that Dawkins is in it, shows the clear bias.
Quoting Mr. Krauss from 40:46 of the video:
Quote:Why is there something rather than nothing? The answer is, there had to be. If you have nothing in quantum mechanics, you'll always get something.
Why didn't i think of that one
Because you fall back on "magicskymandoneit!"
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 10:44 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: sorry, but " picks, winches, ropes and pulleys" as an explanation when were talking cutting, transporting and lifting 30 ton rocks, just insults the intelligence...
So, the guy who built the damn place said he did it using tools, his own manpower and leverage, but oh no! Clearly Huggy, some random guy who never met the man and has no idea about engineering, is in a position to gainsay someone with literal personal experience of doing the things Huggy is claiming cannot be done!
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 10:49 pm
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(November 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: How HE did it, I don't know. Do some research for yourself.
We have the evidence for how the Egyptians did it, from both direct evidence and their own writings.
When I gave that answer, which was the original subject, you then moved the goalposts and mentioned American pyramids, which were not part of the original conversation. Then you moved it again about some guy building his own little stone structure.
My position is that there is no proven method on how the pyramids were built, it is all speculation. Saying "Do some research for yourself." is a cop out, if you have any evidence then post it so it can be examined.
(November 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: My original answers stand. No more acceptance of the movement of goalposts (a common religious ploy when they don't want to accept the answers given).
Moving on.
(And don't try that other religious ploy of then declaring victory).
Structures at coral castle were made to mimic structures in the great pyramid, showing that there is some connection, so no, it's not moving the goal posts.
I like how you made this about religion though.
(November 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Quoting Mr. Krauss from 40:46 of the video:
Quote:Why is there something rather than nothing? The answer is, there had to be. If you have nothing in quantum mechanics, you'll always get something.
Why didn't i think of that one
Because you fall back on "magicskymandoneit!"
You have to admit, it's better than his explanation...
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 11:15 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 10:19 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:11 pm)Saint Peters Cross Wrote: The thing is everything in the the universe has a cause and an effect, yes? Say this happens because of this, no?
Well you can say this steak I am eating right now came from a cow. Which came from the store. Which came from the butcher. Which came from the farm. And so on and so on. But eventually you will say where did the universe come from.
Then that's when God comes in. Because He only logical answer to the creation of the universe is some one created it (set the dominos into motion.) . And that my friend is God.
But let me ask you this who is God? Well by this I am trying to show that God is the unmoved mover nothing set him in motion He set the universe into motion. Ulitmently leading up to my steak. You see we can't have have something come from nothing it just does not work that way.
OK. So where did god come from?
That's the thing God did not come from anything. Because God has always been here and always will be.
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 11:18 pm
simple explanation god worked in the dark without any light source to create everything made light say fuck it its good enough.
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 11:19 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Saint Peters Cross Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:19 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: OK. So where did god come from?
That's the thing God did not come from anything. Because God has always been here and always will be.
You said nothing could come from nothing. In fact, you said, "You see we can't have have something come from nothing it just does not work that way."
So, where did your god come from?
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 11:31 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Science Wrote: Who is god ? .. How did he create the heavens and the earth ? Who created god ? ..
I would really like to hear some words from someone who believes in genesis. I have no idea how anyone could possibly find this a feasible beginning to the beauty of life.
So look at all the response you've gotten. Did you get all the crazy you could handle? I doubt if you got a satisfying answer.
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 11:35 pm
Why don't you read Finkelstein first, asswipe. Afraid you might learn something?
I'm sure that thought terrifies nuts like you.
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RE: Can someone explain this to me ? Genesis 1.
November 4, 2014 at 11:46 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Saint Peters Cross Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:19 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: OK. So where did god come from?
That's the thing God did not come from anything. Because God has always been here and always will be.
If you like that answer, try this one out:
There was no need of something eternal to give rise to 'stuff' because stuff itself is already eternal. What exists has always existed in one form or another even if we are unable to track it back in time forever. Likewise, going forward, what will be will be .. que sera, sera.
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